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TOPIC: New review of Small Gods by Terry Pratchett
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/78c16b972415fd4a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 1 2009 10:19 pm
From: Gabriel
I just wanted to let everyone know I've posted a new review, Small
Gods. One of my favorite Pratchett stories, I wanted to share. Once
again, any feedback and comments are appreciated. http://hubpages.com/hub/Small-Gods
Excerpt:
Welcome back once more to the world of Terry Pratchett's Discworld.
We've reached lucky number 13, Small Gods, the third independent novel
in the series, and even though I rarely think of it, one of my
favorites. It tells the story of a young man, raised in unquestioning
devotion to his religion, who gets to meet his god, and finds out what
faith is all about.
Brutha was raised by his grandmother, a very strict and devout Omnian,
who did all she could to beat her very clear ideas about her god, Om,
into the young man. Now Brutha would be the first to admit he's not
very bright, though many people would no doubt beat him to it, but he
does have a good memory. A very good memory. A perfect memory. He
can't make connections between things very well, but once he's seen
it, he never forgets. So it's probably a mixed blessing when Om
appears before him.
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TOPIC: Polanski Busted!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/cdc76ec734f8b93e?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 3:50 am
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 1, 2:17 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Goose-stepping Net-Etiquette bastards messing with my address lines.
> So I just gotta post it all over again . . .
>
> On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------"
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > on. No me.
>
> Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> Polanski.
>
> Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And YOU?
> When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of Krakow--
> is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's not? Show
> us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we might accept
> your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the table with
> Polanski.
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
"Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz "
When have I ever denied the Holocaust?
If you anything at all you would know I would never do that, not with
what my parents went through.
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 5:01 am
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > on. No me.
>
> Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> Polanski.
>
> Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> table with Polanski.
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
"Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
You are such an ass.
My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
underground.
Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
camp.
I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
coffin.
You have no idea what WW2 was like.
You were not there.
As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
cookies.
You are the worst kind of people.
The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
about what you know nothing about.
That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:30 am
From: Just Me
On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > on. No me.
>
> > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > Polanski.
>
> > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > table with Polanski.
> > --
> > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> You are such an ass.
>
> My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> underground.
>
> Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> camp.
>
> I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> coffin.
>
> You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> You were not there.
> As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> cookies.
>
> You are the worst kind of people.
> The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> about what you know nothing about.
>
> That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
for Polanski, but he won't?
That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
to a real "champ".
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 10:19 am
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 12:30 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
>
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > > on. No me.
>
> > > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> > > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > > Polanski.
>
> > > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > > table with Polanski.
> > > --
> > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> > You are such an ass.
>
> > My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> > war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> > through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> > mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> > underground.
>
> > Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> > only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> > camp.
>
> > I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> > are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> > coffin.
>
> > You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> > You were not there.
> > As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> > cookies.
>
> > You are the worst kind of people.
> > The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> > of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> > More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> > supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> > about what you know nothing about.
>
> > That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
>
> English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
>
> Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
> read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
> for Polanski, but he won't?
>
> That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
> to a real "champ".
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
My mother fought for a free Poland, you asshole. So did my father.
Polanski is nothing more than a rapist of children.
The fact that you can't understand that and would give him the the
defensce of "Auschwitz, Holocaust survivor" is a slap in the face of
every Jew who lived through the war and lived after.
I hope that one of them takes you up on that defense and guts you
before your eyes. I'll love to read that you said it was justifiable
by "Auschwitz, Holocaust " and his/her survival.
You really are the worst sort of Idiot and asshole.
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 5:04 pm
From: Just Me
On Oct 2, 12:19 pm,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:30 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
> > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > > > on. No me.
>
> > > > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> > > > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > > > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > > > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > > > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > > > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > > > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > > > Polanski.
>
> > > > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > > > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > > > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > > > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > > > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > > > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > > > table with Polanski.
> > > > --
> > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> > > You are such an ass.
>
> > > My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> > > war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> > > through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> > > mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> > > underground.
>
> > > Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> > > only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> > > camp.
>
> > > I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> > > are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> > > coffin.
>
> > > You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> > > You were not there.
> > > As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> > > cookies.
>
> > > You are the worst kind of people.
> > > The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> > > of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> > > More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> > > supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> > > about what you know nothing about.
>
> > > That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
>
> > English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
>
> > Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
> > read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
> > for Polanski, but he won't?
>
> > That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
> > to a real "champ".
> > --
> > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> My mother fought for a free Poland, you asshole. So did my father.
>
> Polanski is nothing more than a rapist of children.
>
> The fact that you can't understand that and would give him the the
> defensce of "Auschwitz, Holocaust survivor" is a slap in the face of
> every Jew who lived through the war and lived after.
>
> I hope that one of them takes you up on that defense and guts you
> before your eyes. I'll love to read that you said it was justifiable
> by "Auschwitz, Holocaust " and his/her survival.
>
> You really are the worst sort of Idiot and asshole.
We'll be getting to this brain-dead horseshit, soon as I'm bored
enough to indulge it. Meanwhile observe a mystery of history: where
were *his* parents when long before the "Warsaw Uprising" which
occurred when the Germans were already in retreat--where WERE they,
when the 30 day Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was going on? FACT OF HISTORY:
The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising lasted LONGER than did the Polish defense
of the whole state of Poland.
You are looking at a fool here, namely Kookchiki who thinks that hell
on earth in the life of a man will not affect the man. That's how
STUPID some people can get.
--
JM
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 8:28 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 8:04 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:19 pm,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
>
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 12:30 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
> > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > > > > on. No me.
>
> > > > > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> > > > > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > > > > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > > > > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > > > > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > > > > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > > > > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > > > > Polanski.
>
> > > > > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > > > > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > > > > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > > > > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > > > > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > > > > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > > > > table with Polanski.
> > > > > --
> > > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > > "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> > > > You are such an ass.
>
> > > > My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> > > > war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> > > > through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> > > > mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> > > > underground.
>
> > > > Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> > > > only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> > > > camp.
>
> > > > I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> > > > are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> > > > coffin.
>
> > > > You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> > > > You were not there.
> > > > As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> > > > cookies.
>
> > > > You are the worst kind of people.
> > > > The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> > > > of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> > > > More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> > > > supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> > > > about what you know nothing about.
>
> > > > That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
>
> > > English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
>
> > > Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
> > > read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
> > > for Polanski, but he won't?
>
> > > That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
> > > to a real "champ".
> > > --
> > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > My mother fought for a free Poland, you asshole. So did my father.
>
> > Polanski is nothing more than a rapist of children.
>
> > The fact that you can't understand that and would give him the the
> > defensce of "Auschwitz, Holocaust survivor" is a slap in the face of
> > every Jew who lived through the war and lived after.
>
> > I hope that one of them takes you up on that defense and guts you
> > before your eyes. I'll love to read that you said it was justifiable
> > by "Auschwitz, Holocaust " and his/her survival.
>
> > You really are the worst sort of Idiot and asshole.
>
> We'll be getting to this brain-dead horseshit, soon as I'm bored
> enough to indulge it. Meanwhile observe a mystery of history: where
> were *his* parents when long before the "Warsaw Uprising" which
> occurred when the Germans were already in retreat--where WERE they,
> when the 30 day Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was going on? FACT OF HISTORY:
> The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising lasted LONGER than did the Polish defense
> of the whole state of Poland.
>
> You are looking at a fool here, namely Kookchiki who thinks that hell
> on earth in the life of a man will not affect the man. That's how
> STUPID some people can get.
> --
> JM
63 days and the were sold out by the allies when the west decided to
go with Stalin's demands and not airlift supplies to them.
http://www.warsawuprising.com/
I've never seen such an asshole like you. You know nothing, absolutely
nothing.
My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
1943 Ghetto uprising, but she never actually entered the ghetto.
She saw those Jews who wanted to go down fighting rather than be just
cattle in cattle cars. That was the thing wasn't it. They wanted to
die well and they knew they could not win: better to take a few with
you. Those were your "Inglorious Basterds" not that shit in the movie.
My father managed to get out of Poland through the south when the
Germans invaded and got to England through Dunkirk. He could have just
evacuated to Canada at the time but he chose to join the Free Polish
army and fighting his way back in through Normandy on that day, to
make his way back to Poland
How dare you, you pompus hunk of putrid hog shit.
You have nothing.
You can't even stand you face in the mirror in the moring.
It's a wonder you don't just pull that razor across your neck and do
yourself favor you pozer.
But then I'm sure you don't have the stomach for doing what needs to
be done.
You claimed yourself a Jew?
What the hell are you doing typing on a Friday night?
You are just a low value internet pozer.
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 8:38 pm
From: Just Me
On Oct 2, 10:28 pm,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
> 1943 Ghetto uprising . . .
If that is really true, then God bless her, and how on earth did she
ever get cursed with a Jew-Killer of a son like you?
--
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:33 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 11:38 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 10:28 pm,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
> > 1943 Ghetto uprising . . .
>
> If that is really true, then God bless her, and how on earth did she
> ever get cursed with a Jew-Killer of a son like you?
> --
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
You doubt my word? And you call me a Jew Killer.
You just have no clue, no idea at.
64 years of wasted O2 is all that you are.
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:36 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 11:28 pm,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 8:04 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 12:19 pm,
> > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
> > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > On Oct 2, 12:30 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
> > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > > > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > > > > > on. No me.
>
"> > > > > > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to
be seen,
> > > > > > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > > > > > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > > > > > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > > > > > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > > > > > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > > > > > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > > > > > Polanski.
>
> > > > > > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > > > > > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > > > > > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > > > > > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > > > > > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > > > > > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > > > > > table with Polanski.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > > > "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> > > > > You are such an ass.
>
> > > > > My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> > > > > war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> > > > > through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> > > > > mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> > > > > underground.
>
> > > > > Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> > > > > only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> > > > > camp.
>
> > > > > I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> > > > > are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> > > > > coffin.
>
> > > > > You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> > > > > You were not there.
> > > > > As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> > > > > cookies.
>
> > > > > You are the worst kind of people.
> > > > > The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> > > > > of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> > > > > More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> > > > > supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> > > > > about what you know nothing about.
>
> > > > > That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
>
> > > > English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
>
> > > > Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
> > > > read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
> > > > for Polanski, but he won't?
>
> > > > That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
> > > > to a real "champ".
> > > > --
> > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > My mother fought for a free Poland, you asshole. So did my father.
>
> > > Polanski is nothing more than a rapist of children.
>
> > > The fact that you can't understand that and would give him the the
> > > defensce of "Auschwitz, Holocaust survivor" is a slap in the face of
> > > every Jew who lived through the war and lived after.
>
> > > I hope that one of them takes you up on that defense and guts you
> > > before your eyes. I'll love to read that you said it was justifiable
> > > by "Auschwitz, Holocaust " and his/her survival.
>
> > > You really are the worst sort of Idiot and asshole.
>
> > We'll be getting to this brain-dead horseshit, soon as I'm bored
> > enough to indulge it. Meanwhile observe a mystery of history: where
> > were *his* parents when long before the "Warsaw Uprising" which
> > occurred when the Germans were already in retreat--where WERE they,
> > when the 30 day Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was going on? FACT OF HISTORY:
> > The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising lasted LONGER than did the Polish defense
> > of the whole state of Poland.
>
> > You are looking at a fool here, namely Kookchiki who thinks that hell
> > on earth in the life of a man will not affect the man. That's how
> > STUPID some people can get.
> > --
> > JM
>
> 63 days and the were sold out by the allies when the west decided to
> go with Stalin's demands and not airlift supplies to them.http://www.warsawuprising.com/
>
> I've never seen such an asshole like you. You know nothing, absolutely
> nothing.
>
> My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
> 1943 Ghetto uprising, but she never actually entered the ghetto.
> She saw those Jews who wanted to go down fighting rather than be just
> cattle in cattle cars. That was the thing wasn't it. They wanted to
> die well and they knew they could not win: better to take a few with
> you. Those were your "Inglorious Basterds" not that shit in the movie.
>
> My father managed to get out of Poland through the south when the
> Germans invaded and got to England through Dunkirk. He could have just
> evacuated to Canada at the time but he chose to join the Free Polish
> army and fighting his way back in through Normandy on that day, to
> make his way back to Poland
>
> How dare you, you pompus hunk of putrid hog shit.
>
> You have nothing.
> You can't even stand you face in the mirror in the moring.
> It's a wonder you don't just pull that razor across your neck and do
> yourself favor you pozer.
> But then I'm sure you don't have the stomach for doing what needs to
> be done.
>
> You claimed yourself a Jew?
> What the hell are you doing typing on a Friday night?
>
> You are just a low value internet pozer."
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:39 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 11:28 pm,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 8:04 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 12:19 pm,
> > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
> > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > On Oct 2, 12:30 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 2, 7:01 am,
> > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 1, 2:09 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 29, 5:32 am,
> > > > > > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > > > > > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hey, you put Auschwitz on the table as a crutch for Polanski to lean
> > > > > > > on. No me.
>
> > > > > > Yep, between you and Ahmadinejad there is no daylight to be seen,
> > > > > > whether it's you talking "a crutch" or him with his "pretext". The
> > > > > > Madman of Iran denies it ever happened, to the dead, while you deny it
> > > > > > makes any difference to the living. Which denial is worse? God forbid
> > > > > > you should have your day at the table of Sadie Mae Glutz. She would
> > > > > > open your eyes for you, many bleeding little eyes through which to see
> > > > > > Auschwitz, Holocaust and what's always on the table, in a man like
> > > > > > Polanski.
>
> > > > > > Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad put Auschwitz on the table. People
> > > > > > like me were on the table, the one that slides into the oven. And
> > > > > > YOU? When you were being chased by the Nazis through the streets of
> > > > > > Krakow--is that when you got hip to what's on the table and what's
> > > > > > not? Show us your credentials from your days in the ditch, that we
> > > > > > might accept your fucking expertise on the subject as to what's on the
> > > > > > table with Polanski.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > > > "Deniers like you and Ahmadinejad"
>
> > > > > You are such an ass.
>
> > > > > My parents were there, asshole. I have first hand accounts about the
> > > > > war. Upstais is a drawer full of medals from campaingns my father went
> > > > > through. Upstairs are commendations from the Polish government to my
> > > > > mother for her part in the uprising and various deeds done with the
> > > > > underground.
>
> > > > > Tell me about her train ride to that camp when she was capture and
> > > > > only save by the idea that she was a combatant and ended up in a POW
> > > > > camp.
>
> > > > > I doubt you will have an honour guard of peers at your grave site who
> > > > > are willing to burry you with honours and lay white gloves on your
> > > > > coffin.
>
> > > > > You have no idea what WW2 was like.
> > > > > You were not there.
> > > > > As far as I know your father never enlisted and your mother was baking
> > > > > cookies.
>
> > > > > You are the worst kind of people.
> > > > > The kind who is smug about what he's read but has lived through none
> > > > > of it and did not have to live with the outcomes.
> > > > > More than that, is that you are too afraid to go to the place that you
> > > > > supposedly support to fight on the walls while pontificating to no end
> > > > > about what you know nothing about.
>
> > > > > That's called a being a poser and an asshole.
>
> > > > English is not exactly your first language is it, there, Mahmoud?
>
> > > > Soon as I find a few minutes to waste, he'll get his reply, if he can
> > > > read something not written with a Polanski accent. His mother fought
> > > > for Polanski, but he won't?
>
> > > > That's what leftist political correctness will do for you. Turns you
> > > > to a real "champ".
> > > > --
> > > > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > > My mother fought for a free Poland, you asshole. So did my father.
>
> > > Polanski is nothing more than a rapist of children.
>
> > > The fact that you can't understand that and would give him the the
> > > defensce of "Auschwitz, Holocaust survivor" is a slap in the face of
> > > every Jew who lived through the war and lived after.
>
> > > I hope that one of them takes you up on that defense and guts you
> > > before your eyes. I'll love to read that you said it was justifiable
> > > by "Auschwitz, Holocaust " and his/her survival.
>
> > > You really are the worst sort of Idiot and asshole.
>
> > We'll be getting to this brain-dead horseshit, soon as I'm bored
> > enough to indulge it. Meanwhile observe a mystery of history: where
> > were *his* parents when long before the "Warsaw Uprising" which
> > occurred when the Germans were already in retreat--where WERE they,
> > when the 30 day Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was going on? FACT OF HISTORY:
> > The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising lasted LONGER than did the Polish defense
> > of the whole state of Poland.
>
> > You are looking at a fool here, namely Kookchiki who thinks that hell
> > on earth in the life of a man will not affect the man. That's how
> > STUPID some people can get.
> > --
> > JM
>
> 63 days and the were sold out by the allies when the west decided to
> go with Stalin's demands and not airlift supplies to them.http://www.warsawuprising.com/
>
> I've never seen such an asshole like you. You know nothing, absolutely
> nothing.
>
> My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
> 1943 Ghetto uprising, but she never actually entered the ghetto.
> She saw those Jews who wanted to go down fighting rather than be just
> cattle in cattle cars. That was the thing wasn't it. They wanted to
> die well and they knew they could not win: better to take a few with
> you. Those were your "Inglorious Basterds" not that shit in the movie.
>
> My father managed to get out of Poland through the south when the
> Germans invaded and got to England through Dunkirk. He could have just
> evacuated to Canada at the time but he chose to join the Free Polish
> army and fighting his way back in through Normandy on that day, to
> make his way back to Poland
>
> How dare you, you pompus hunk of putrid hog shit.
>
> You have nothing.
> You can't even stand you face in the mirror in the moring.
> It's a wonder you don't just pull that razor across your neck and do
> yourself favor you pozer.
> But then I'm sure you don't have the stomach for doing what needs to
> be done.
>
> You claimed yourself a Jew?
> What the hell are you doing typing on a Friday night?
>
> You are just a low value internet pozer.
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 10:05 pm
From: Just Me
On Oct 2, 11:33 pm,
"Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 11:38 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 2, 10:28 pm,
> > "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------"
>
> > <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > My mother was 18 at the time and was a communications runner in the
> > > 1943 Ghetto uprising . . .
>
> > If that is really true, then God bless her, and how on earth did she
> > ever get cursed with a Jew-Killer of a son like you?
> > --
> > --
> > JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> You doubt my word? And you call me a Jew Killer.
>
> You just have no clue, no idea at.
>
> 64 years of wasted O2 is all that you are.
64! I thought it was 63. Don't FUCK with my delusions, Jack. They all
I got to make me mellow, for which reason I avoid mathematics.
Dig this . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLzUme1gN8c&feature=related
And SEE how once upon a time this earth was FREE, way fucking FREE,
jACK.
And like I said . . .
God Bless yo Mama!!!
--
jm
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Bookstores Around the World (rec.arts.books) (FAQ) (IMPORTANT UPDATE)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/92153a6882249799?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 7:19 am
From: "Stanley Moore"
"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.252ece297b8d2deb98a2a0@208.90.168.18...
> In article <AeCdndEMadweb13XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@giganews.com>, smoore20
> @comcast.net says...
>
>> I am in Houston which I agree is "South" and Texas was part of the
>> Confederacy so by definition is South. Dallas on the other hand thinks it
>> is
>> western but it lies to the east of the real West. In reality the next
>> city
>> to the west of Dallas is Fort Worth which is the site of a army fort
>> founded
>> in 1849, one of a series to mark the western frontier. Fort Worth (where
>> I
>> was born) sometimes styles itself "Where the West Begins". So Dallas
>> shouldn't call itself :western". Take care
>
> All native Houstonians know that Dallas is in fact a wretched hive of
> scum and villainy located so far to the north that it may very well be
> populated almost exclusively by Yankees.
>
> ;-)
>
> Dave
>
Perfect description of the attitude of us Houstonians. Our cosmopolitan city
is far and away better than the denizens of Dallas ever dare to hope for.
Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 1 2009 10:54 am
From: mzenier@eskimo.com (Mark Zenier)
In article <f56cd10e-4517-45f4-90c8-e71eab09602e@d21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
J <jmelsna@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Sep 29, 10:55�pm, Evelyn Leeper <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> J wrote:
>> > Talk about "thread drift"...
>>
>> Which also means I have to read all this stuff in case someone actually
>> has a useful update....
>>
>> --
>> Evelyn C. Leeper
>
>
>I'm going to Seattle next week. If I have any useful corrections, I
>will send them to you privately, as I have done in the past.
>
>Thanks again for your hard work in producing these lists, even if they
>*are* out of date almost before the cyber-ink is dry...
Minor Seattle update.
Gemini Book Exchange is long gone.
Flora and Fauna are not in the recent phone book; ;=(
Archie McPhee ran afoul of the real estate monster in Ballard
and moved back to Wallingford (about 6 blocks up Stone Way from
their previous previous location).
Pegasus and Leisure were still there on Tuesday. ;-) (West Seattle)
Page 2 in Burien, as of a month or so ago.
Worth adding is Abraxus Books, 5711 24th Ave NW, in Ballard. They built
a new branch library in Ballard (along with about a dozen others on a
big bond issue) and the 1970's vintage not so old library is now a used
book store. Average for Science Fiction, but the Philosophy section
is impressive.
There's at least one more used bookstore in Ballard, too,
(Epilogue Books?) that I've not been to yet.
Mark Zenier mzenier@eskimo.com
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:58 am
From: Stephen Graham
Mark Zenier wrote:
> Worth adding is Abraxus Books, 5711 24th Ave NW, in Ballard. They built
> a new branch library in Ballard (along with about a dozen others on a
> big bond issue) and the 1970's vintage not so old library is now a used
> book store. Average for Science Fiction, but the Philosophy section
> is impressive.
That's out-of-date. Abraxus moved to Lower Queen Anne about a month ago.
524 1st Avenue.
> There's at least one more used bookstore in Ballard, too,
> (Epilogue Books?) that I've not been to yet.
2001 NW Market St. I haven't been in it recently but my roommate thinks
it's reasonably good.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Online discussion forums for fans of Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys and Tom
Swift ~ 100209
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/72fac123c35f2dd6?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 7:42 am
From: "HardyBoys.us"
Online discussion forums for fans of Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys and Tom Swift ~
100209
Nancy Drew Fan Forum
A group for adult fans of Carolyn Keene's famous Nancy Drew Mystery Series
Books.
Meet other fans, discuss all aspects of collecting and reading the Nancy Drew
series, buy/sell/trade Nancy Drew books, collectibles and memorabilia.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheNancyDrewGroup/
Hardy Boys Fan Forum
A group for adult fans of Franklin W. Dixon's famous Hardy Boys Mystery Series
Books.
Meet other fans, discuss all aspects of collecting and reading the Hardy Boys
series, buy/sell/trade Hardy Boys books, collectibles and memorabilia.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HardyBoys
Tom Swift Fan Forum
A group for adult fans of Victor Appleton's Tom Swift series.
Meet other fans, discuss all aspects of collecting and reading Tom Swift Sr.,
Jr., III, IV and Young Inventor and other books by Victor Appleton.
Buy/sell/trade/seek Tom Swift books and memorabilia.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TomSwift/
...............
THE UNOFFICIAL NANCY DREW HOME PAGE
http://nancydrew.bobfinnan.com
Detailed information on all the books, both hardcover & paperback.
Plus info & pictures about the TV show, movies, collectibles & memorabilia and
much more!
"The Nancy Drew Connection" - A Nancy Drew Message Board
Plus Nancy Drew For Sale: http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/ndamaz.htm
THE HARDY BOYS UNOFFICIAL HOME PAGE
http://hardyboys.us
The most detailed site about the Hardy Boys on the Internet.
Detailed information on all the books, both hardcover & paperback.
All the TV series: the Mickey Mouse Club serials, the animated series, the 70's
series starring Shaun Cassidy & Parker Stevenson and the syndicated series of
the 90's.
Hundreds of pictures of Hardy Boys games, toys, collectibles and memorabilia.
There's also an FAQ page to answer many questions, an e-mail discussion group +
MORE!!!
All this at: http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com or http://www.hardyboys.us
Plus Hardy Boys For Sale: http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/amazon.htm
THE UNOFFICIAL TOM SWIFT HOME PAGE
http://tomswift.bobfinnan.com
Information about all 5 generations of Tom Swift books!
Plus an online discussion group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TomSwift
Plus Tom Swift For Sale: http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/tsamaz.htm
-------------------------------------------------
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Sarah Palin's book is bestseller before going on sale
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/cdf4478f17d59f04?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 7:49 am
From: afrl
(Reuters) - Sarah Palin's upcoming memoir is already the
top bestselling book on the shopping sites of Amazon.com
and Barnes & Noble, a month and a half before the book goes
on sale.
The memoir from last year's Republican vice-presidential
candidate, titled "Going Rogue: An American Life,"
(Amazon.com: http://xrl.us/PalinRogue ) is scheduled for
release on November 17, four months after the book deal was
announced and much earlier than planned.
The memoir, which became available for pre-order this week,
has been in Amazon.com's top 100 for three days, and just
replaced the latest novel from "Da Vinci Code" author Dan
Brown at the top of the list..
Continued: http://xrl.us/SarahRogue
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 8:53 am
From: "CA Politics"
"afrl" <remailer@reece.net.au> wrote in message
news:9FMWKQVC40088.9512037037@reece.net.au...
> (Reuters) - Sarah Palin's upcoming memoir is already the
> top bestselling book on the shopping sites of Amazon.com
> and Barnes & Noble, a month and a half before the book goes
> on sale.
>
> The memoir from last year's Republican vice-presidential
> candidate, titled "Going Rogue: An American Life,"
> (Amazon.com: http://xrl.us/PalinRogue ) is scheduled for
> release on November 17, four months after the book deal was
> announced and much earlier than planned.
>
> The memoir, which became available for pre-order this week,
> has been in Amazon.com's top 100 for three days, and just
> replaced the latest novel from "Da Vinci Code" author Dan
> Brown at the top of the list..
>
> Continued: http://xrl.us/SarahRogue
FOX really likes buying up their own books.
Did you hear that WorldNetDaily and the Washington Times, both owned by
Reverend Moon - LOVE his autobiography.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Recent reading: The Company They Keep: C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien
as Writers in Community
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/a250577551cd6b5f?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 10:58 am
From: Steve Hayes
The Company They Keep: C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien as Writers in
Community by Diana Pavlac Glyer
Glyer shows how the members of the group influenced one another, and
challenges the view of many scholars that there was no such influence. She
notes that an entire generation of scholars was discouraged from studying or
asserting mutual influence among the Inklings when C.S. Lewis warned a
correspondent who asked about influence among the Inklings that he should not
"waste time" on a "barren field". Glyer argues that there was a tendency to
confuse influence with imitation. "In claiming that Tolkien was not influenced
by Lewis, for example, scholars typically mean that his sub-created world does
not resemble Malacandra and his creative aesthetic is different from that
which envisioned Narnia."
Full review at: http://su.pr/1sAWKh
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/litmain.htm
http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Methodius
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 1:12 pm
From: Steve Morrison
Steve Hayes wrote:
> The Company They Keep: C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien as Writers in
> Community by Diana Pavlac Glyer
>
> Glyer shows how the members of the group influenced one another, and
> challenges the view of many scholars that there was no such influence. She
> notes that an entire generation of scholars was discouraged from studying or
> asserting mutual influence among the Inklings when C.S. Lewis warned a
> correspondent who asked about influence among the Inklings that he should not
> "waste time" on a "barren field". Glyer argues that there was a tendency to
> confuse influence with imitation. "In claiming that Tolkien was not influenced
> by Lewis, for example, scholars typically mean that his sub-created world does
> not resemble Malacandra and his creative aesthetic is different from that
> which envisioned Narnia."
>
> Full review at: http://su.pr/1sAWKh
Thanks for reminding me of this book. I saw another review a
while back, and meant to order it but forgot; now I will.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yeftp39
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 7:30 pm
From: Steve Hayes
On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:12:42 -0400, Steve Morrison <rimagen@toast.net> wrote:
>Steve Hayes wrote:
>> The Company They Keep: C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien as Writers in
>> Community by Diana Pavlac Glyer
>>
>> Glyer shows how the members of the group influenced one another, and
>> challenges the view of many scholars that there was no such influence. She
>> notes that an entire generation of scholars was discouraged from studying or
>> asserting mutual influence among the Inklings when C.S. Lewis warned a
>> correspondent who asked about influence among the Inklings that he should not
>> "waste time" on a "barren field". Glyer argues that there was a tendency to
>> confuse influence with imitation. "In claiming that Tolkien was not influenced
>> by Lewis, for example, scholars typically mean that his sub-created world does
>> not resemble Malacandra and his creative aesthetic is different from that
>> which envisioned Narnia."
>>
>> Full review at: http://su.pr/1sAWKh
>
>Thanks for reminding me of this book. I saw another review a
>while back, and meant to order it but forgot; now I will.
>
>http://preview.tinyurl.com/yeftp39
Thanks, I didn't realise a paperback edition was available. Definitely worth
getting.
It replaces Carpenter's book as the standard work on the Inklings. In spite of
its scholarship I found it as unputdownable as a page-turner novel, which
shows that scholarship doesn't have to be dull.
--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/litmain.htm
http://www.goodreads.com/hayesstw
http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/Methodius
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TOPIC: gandi's drunkard son pray tell why you turned into a muslim
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 11:17 am
From: "harmony"
"Mirza Ghalib" <mghalib01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3b7d958f-61d8-49d7-a0f3-0a928075928d@a7g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 28, 11:02 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> lol.
> you are filled with hatred, a sign of a failed weakling trying to blame
> somebody else. hearing you speak of satyam or shivam or sundaram makes for
> lol.
>
Harmony ji:
<The very fact that you are "lol" betrays your
own lack of confidence. Forget for a moment whether Gandhi
was from Gujarat or someplace else. In fairness to Gandhi,
he was very open minded in this area, and he was respected by
most Indians of that era, albeit undeservedly.>
lol on that too. if you look carefully, mirza ji, you will see it is that
not-so-bright arindam who regionalizes the mahatma, not me. i would never do
that. you knew that, right? you need to argue that part with gimme-gimme
arvindam. good luck there.
i don't get the "undeservedly" part on respect though. mahatma earned it
fair and square in the broad day light in full view of the world. he led by
example, not by empty preaching, showed courage at a time when total fear
gripped the colonized people. he could organize people like never done
before. as reagan famously said, "don't argue with success". (wisdom to
learn from the white folks: celebrate others' good points and success with
an open mind.)
--------
<<The encounters with his nieces is vividly described in
Nirmal Kumar Bose's "My Days with Gandhi". When some members
of his team questioned him about the impropriety Gandhi stonewalled
them.>>
that was crazy, obviously, but everybody knew why he did that, no? he was
testing his control on his indriya for which he had put in great sadhana,
like fasting, mauna, simple food, austere living and on and on.
let's face it: he was no ordinary guy. he was going to experiment with life
and its truth to the limit. crazy? absolutely - at least for regular
mortals - but that's the way it was.
at any rate, whatever one's view, be it because of one's tradition, culture,
indoctrination or fig leaf phobia, as far as i know this did not affect
anybody's lives nor the nation's business of which he was the leader.
<<Gandhi's eldest son, Hari did convert into Islam. Those who induced
him
to do so extended the invitation also to Gandhi. But these are trivial
matters.>>
exactly. yes, these are trivial matters. but apparently big matters to
not-so bright arindam; so now you know my lol.
btw, didn't hari reconvert back to hinduism, thanks to swami shraddhanandji,
one of my heroes - at mahatma's prodding.
<The important thing is who benefited from his Satya-Ahinsa crap?>
although i understand the feeling, it wasn't crap. the trick is to get right
the perspective in the frame of that period. you will then see it was just
the opposite. it is well recognized that it was mahatma who strongly
influenced the people of power and influence and goodwill around the world
to humanize the badly troubled world, and help them see that nations
oppresssing other nations is not the way to live. look at the state of world
wide violence in his time. blood sucking colonialism, ever present wars all
over from far east to far west, north and south. the world was truly a
traumatized place. he showed the direction in a way that happens once in
millenium. indeed time magazine ranked him 2nd as the person of the
millenium behind einstein. so, isn't it something that einstein in his late
years had only mahatma's portrait hanging on his walls after he took
everything else off the walls? wasn't he the one to pay mahatma the most
hearfelt glowing tribute? surely, einstein had no time for crap, did he?
but arindam unloads a lot of crap on einstein, right?
so, to answer your question: the whole humanity benefitted.
now, you will say, so what good did it do for india?
i don't think you need to go beyond the words of the tallest intellectual in
india rajagopalchari ji on why gandhi ji had mass following : "organized
violence (against the british) was an impossibility". modern day armchair
warrior critics of the mahatma forget this reality, and build castles in
air.
if you proceed from this reality, it is not hard to see that gandhi did more
for indian political unity than any other single factor or i would say any
group of people.
if you fault him for everything else, this part alone excuses everything
else. he was one of very few who shraddhanand ji could really count on for
his fight against caste discriminations. he got ambedkar to come around for
a united india.
it wasn't the british centralized rule that alone made for a united india.
do you honestly think those 500 princely states would have joined india
without the credibility of the congress party? if yes, who wold you give
most credit to create that aura if not for the repuation of mahatma gandhi
for honesty and integrity?
who would they trust? nehru? maulana, the congress president? do you think
they would have joined india if they knew their royalited would be swallowed
up by congressis in 20 years? do you honestly think the sikhs would have
remained in india? the high moral content of congress, and its credibility -
the essential ingredients for a credible state - was made possible largely
beause of the millieu created by gandhi, the principled pujari of satya and
ahimsa.
if a person goes on fast for giving the enemy his due share, why would the
kings not trust him? i do not think this point is well understood. but if
you look at other countries where competing forces go at one another's
throats often, threatening their political unity, you will realize how
imortant this thing is. look at pakistan, afghanistan, sri lanka,
bangladesh, even parts of modern india. we all love the idea and the truth
that india is one unified country, but it takes a lot to make that work. my
hindi teacher used to say, "angaare khaney padtey hai".
political unity is the paramount thing, not the army. empires come and go,
what reamins is the bonds and emotional unity of people. and that takes a
lot of doing - even between two neighbors. in modern india that task is ably
done by the organizations like rss - so, no wonder the anti-india 3m must
revile them, as they reviled the mahatma in his time.
<<<Gandhi was conveniently absent when the Muslim mobs, instigated
by Suhravardy, then Gov of Bengal. After 5000 Hindu Sikhs lay
dead in streets, the Hindus organised, the table turned. When the
counter-mobs were looking for Suhravardy, Gandhi suddenly popped up,
and lo, he took this criminal under his wings. He later rewarded
Gandhi
with unusual vituperation when a few months later Gandhi was camped
out at Noakhali on a "peace mission", but that is another story,
also recorded by Bose in his book.
What benefit, may I ask, did Gandhi bring to Hindus and Sikhs
of undivided India? The partition did occur, despite Gandhi's
pronouncements to the contrary ('over my dead body, etc').
The bulk of Muslims who voted for Pakistan stayed in India,
and Hindus remained unprepared till the last moment for the
inevitable because they foolishly believed that Gandhi would pull
a miracle.>>>
------------------
i notice that when people start faulting mahtma it is always about partition
of 1947 - and khilafat. quite apparently, they have no problem with all that
he did before 1947.
so, why not give him the credit for the reasons he had nationwide - and
international - following?
what could he, 80 year old man, have done under this madness? yes, what
options did he really have then?
he commanded no army, no police no nothing except his own moral authority
which no doubt was considerable; of course, mostly with the hindus.
he had no rapid action tool or power which could be deployed in a fast
deteriorating conflict, did he?
i will tell you one thing, and you can run your own checks and find out.
i have talked about this with so many punjabi folks who were affected by
partition. so far, not one has faulted mahatma for partition massacres.
actually, i did find many who were very grateful that congress party had
made accomodations for tens of thousands of them in dillie.
when a leader produces results for masses consistently, the people will
trust that leader for miracle. but things can go wrong along the way. it has
happened in the story of freedom struggles of many countries, including usa.
those nations don't come down on their leaders the way indians are doing.
when india neared freedom, the expectations and the forward dynamics changed
dramatically. it did not help that mahatma was a very very old man then. he
used to say people in his own congress did not listen to him. people
salivated at the prospects of power. there was no alternative to his
leadership at the time although he wasn't the man for the moment.
he did his best to stop partition. it did not work. so, there is a lesson to
be learned there: muslims are a separate nation no matter what anybody says.
now, if the people out there have learned that lesson, i would say partition
wasn't a bad thing.
it is not clear why murkah arindam would have problem with hari converting
to islam in the first place because he grows twice in size when his shayaris
are applauded by mommedans: his reason enough for a negative attitutde
toward objective hindus is they won't buy his snake oil, and whom he must
therefore call back stabbers.
----------------------------------------------------
<<<If any credit is due, at least in Punjab, it should go to the RSS,
who at tremendous risk rescued thousands of Punjabi Hindus and
Sikhs from the perils, and brought them safely into India. It is
ironical they are branded by the rulers of India as "communal" !>>>
i agree. and i don't believe mahatma ever criticised self defence during
partition. rss literature shows it considers mahatma as a great hero; why do
you suppose rss, which is not shy about being polically incorrect, thinks
mahatma is a great hero?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 11:00 pm
From: Mirza Ghalib
> i will tell you one thing, and you can run your own checks and find out.
> i have talked about this with so many punjabi folks who were affected by
> partition. so far, not one has faulted mahatma for partition massacres.
> actually, i did find many who were very grateful that congress party had
> made accomodations for tens of thousands of them in dillie.
>
> when a leader produces results for masses consistently, the people will
> trust that leader for miracle. but things can go wrong along the way. it has
> happened in the story of freedom struggles of many countries, including usa.
> those nations don't come down on their leaders the way indians are doing.
>
> when india neared freedom, the expectations and the forward dynamics changed
> dramatically. it did not help that mahatma was a very very old man then. he
> used to say people in his own congress did not listen to him. people
> salivated at the prospects of power. there was no alternative to his
> leadership at the time although he wasn't the man for the moment.
> he did his best to stop partition. it did not work. so, there is a lesson to
> be learned there: muslims are a separate nation no matter what anybody says.
> now, if the people out there have learned that lesson, i would say partition
> wasn't a bad thing.
>
> it is not clear why murkah arindam would have problem with hari converting
> to islam in the first place because he grows twice in size when his shayaris
> are applauded by mommedans: his reason enough for a negative attitutde
> toward objective hindus is they won't buy his snake oil, and whom he must
> therefore call back stabbers.
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> <<<If any credit is due, at least in Punjab, it should go to the RSS,
> who at tremendous risk rescued thousands of Punjabi Hindus and
> Sikhs from the perils, and brought them safely into India. It is
> ironical they are branded by the rulers of India as "communal" !>>>
>
> i agree. and i don't believe mahatma ever criticised self defence during
> partition. rss literature shows it considers mahatma as a great hero; why do
> you suppose rss, which is not shy about being polically incorrect, thinks ...
>
> read more »
Obviously you did not interview many Punjabis.
The most glaring example contradicting your view is that of
Madan Lal Pahwa. He had met Gandhi some time in December '47
or January '48, and lamented about his family in Punjab being
butchered before his eyes. Gandhi gave him some cockamamie
answers, something like universal love and Ahinsa, which I
tend to believe greatly upset him. I say that because he planted
a bomb designed for Gandhi about 10 days before Gandhi was
actually assassinated. The bomb did explode, but Gandhi escaped
unhurt.
Gandhi did discourage the refugees that were pouring into India
during 1946-47 from coming to India. Instead, his advice for
them was to "fight by Ahinsak means, armed only with moral
power, even if it could (certainly) mean death", or worse, especially
for the women. It is noteworthy that he offered the similar advice
to the British and the Jews of Europe.
Gandhi never studied history. He foolishly mistook common
courtesy as "goodwill." Add to that his utter stubbornness and
refusal to accept his own mistakes (there were many, some
very crucial). Scan Gandhi's sayings. Not in one place has
he criticized Muslims, even though they displayed their
predatory behavior, such as by Moplahs in Kerala, 1921-22.
However, he routinely blackmailed Hindus on absurd and
dangerous points, through his "purification" fasts.
I think Gandhi was trying to project himself to the Indian
people as another Jesus Christ, one who takes the sins of
others on his own shoulders. Perhaps he did succeed there,
because, like Christ, he too was assassinated.
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TOPIC: Drips, Dorks and Dinks that Don't Dig the Dead
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 2 2009 9:08 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------"
On Oct 2, 11:42 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 10:31 pm,
> "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------"
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 11:26 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Definitely need to DROP DEAD or prove they can produce something SO
> > > MAGIC as this . . .
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOXPVRLpoQA&feature=related
>
> > > Listen to ALL of it, down to the very last drop, or Shut yo' mouth!
> > > --
> > > JMhttp://jpdavid.blogspot.com/http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
>
> > Go away pozer
>
> Shut up, Jew burner.
What a stupid pozer
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