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* The Books That Founded D&D - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/8ba57c69243a3499?hl=en
* Jalousie: A Thing of Purest Magnificence - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/af0c465e4afc566a?hl=en
* Bonham-Carter and Enid Blyton - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/fbdf16f47ae75d44?hl=en
* Best Book Covers of 2009 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/4044118dfb43d13a?hl=en
* David Irving Speaks In Chicago 11/23 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/b95e346189f9d737?hl=en
* Franz Neumann on Carl Schmitt - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/448beaac281290a1?hl=en

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TOPIC: The Books That Founded D&D
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/8ba57c69243a3499?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 12:02 am
From: DouhetSukd


On Nov 20, 10:27 am, Quadibloc <jsav...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 9:47 am, Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/y9gf2naD
> > The Books That Founded D&D
> > by James Maliszewski
>
> > Although it's commonplace nowadays to assume that J.R.R. Tolkien's The
> > Lord of the Rings was the primary source of inspiration for Dave Arneson
> > and Gary Gygax when they created the world's first tabletop roleplaying
> > game, Dungeons & Dragons, a careful examination of the game suggests
> > otherwise.
> > Jack Vance
>
> > Of the many short stories and novels Jack Vance wrote, it was his 1950
> > collection The Dying Earth and its 1966 sequel The Eyes of the
> > Overworld, that had the most influence on D&D. Set in the impossibly far
> > future, when magic has returned and the sun is sputtering its last rays
> > of light, these books introduce a peculiar form of magic that depends on
> > imprinting spell formulae on the mind of a wizard, who immediately
> > "forgets" them after use - the very system D&D adopted. Indeed, D&D
> > borrows many spells and magical artifacts from these books and the
> > protagonist of The Eyes of the Overworld is, along with Leiber's Gray
> > Mouser, the prototype for the Thief character class, first added to the
> > game in its first supplement in 1975.
>
> Indeed, I remember reading in a book about different games that the
> D&D magic system was based on Jack Vance's "The Dying Earth"... and
> everyone else had used a much more sensible mana point system.
>
> Oddly enough, the author of that book's second edition was Jon
> Freeman, but the original hardcover edition (which also had a slightly
> different title, the paperback being sponsored by a magazine) was
> written by John Jackson (and bore the title "A Player's Guide to Table
> Games").
>
> John Savard

A careful reading of the spells D&D v 2.0 reveals a number of spells
originating from Cugel's Saga. The Spell of Forlorn Encystement comes
to mind (9th level, you end up in statis 50 miles underground), but
there are others. Been a long time, can't recall.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:32 am
From: ramsey@ramsey-campbell.com


On Nov 20, 10:13�pm, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dan Clore wrote:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/y9gf2naD
> > The Books That Founded D&D
> > by James Maliszewski
>
> [...]
>
> > So, if The Lord of the Rings wasn't as influential in the creation of
> > D&D as some would have it, then what were the most significant literary
> > inspirations for the founding game of the hobby of roleplaying? Let's
> > first take a look at the ones Gary Gygax specifically mentions in his
> > foreword.
>
> > Edgar Rice Burroughs
>
> [...]
>
> > Robert E. Howard
>
> [...]
>
> > L. Sprague de Camp and Fletcher Pratt
>
> [...]
>
> > Fritz Leiber
>
> [...]
>
> > Jack Vance
>
> [...]
>
> > H.P. Lovecraft
>
> [...]
>
> > Abraham Merritt
>
> [...]
>
> > Poul Anderson
>
> [...]
>
> > As you can see, no single author or novel is the sole source of
> > inspiration for Dungeons & Dragons. Instead, its origins are
> > multifarious, with many books providing the raw materials from which
> > Arneson and Gygax crafted the game that changed the world.
>
> > It's unfortunate that so many of these books and authors today are
> > largely unknown except to aficionados of early fantasy and science
> > fiction. It's my hope that, by bringing these authors to wider public
> > knowledge, more people might not only recognize the debt that the hobby
> > of roleplaying owes to their remarkable imaginations but also enjoy
> > their writings in their own right. Like D&D itself, whose influence
> > extends far beyond tabletop roleplaying games, these writers and their
> > ideas contributed much to contemporary popular culture and they deserve
> > their due.
>
> � � �This is quite interesting. It would be even better, if the author
> suggested a way of approaching these "largely unknown" authors. Of them,
> I didn't know only Fritz Leiber, but haven't read their works except
> Poul Anderson's. And that's because I can't. I've tried reading about
> Cthulhu several times, to no avail. And I've endured reading only one or
> two pieces (at most) each by Burroughs, Howard, Vance and Merritt. Being
> � early (or classic) writers in the genre does not, unfortunately, mean
> quality writing. Or a style I can stomach.
>
> --
> You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Lovecraft, try reading his other work - it's very varied, and he's
probably the most important twentieth-century writer in his field.
"The Colour out of Space", THE CASE OF CHARLES DEXTER WARD, "The Rats
in the Walls"... Burroughs, Merritt and even Howard are stylistically
patchy, but Vance most certainly means "quality writing" - he's an
enviably fine stylist, and at least as witty as Leiber (who is one of
the twentieth-century masters of supernatural horror and fantasy, and
no slouch in his science fiction either).

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:41 am
From: Quadibloc


On Nov 20, 11:14 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Patok wrote:

> > And I've endured
> > reading only one or two pieces (at most) each by Burroughs, Howard,
> >  Vance and Merritt. Being early (or classic) writers in the genre
> > does not, unfortunately, mean quality writing.
>
> One of these is very much unlike the others.

I suspect you mean Jack Vance. But A. A. Merritt and even E. R.
Burroughs had sometimes written well; Burroughs' first book in the
Tarzan series and in the Barsoom series weren't all that bad. I don't
know about the Conan series yet.

John Savard


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 10:51 am
From: David Johnston


On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:47:50 +0200, Juho Julkunen
<giaotanj@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In article <he74b1$kpu$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Patok
>(crazy.div.patok@gmail.com) says...
>> Dan Clore wrote:
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/y9gf2naD
>> > The Books That Founded D&D
>> > by James Maliszewski
>> >
>> [...]
>> >
>> > So, if The Lord of the Rings wasn't as influential in the creation of
>> > D&D as some would have it, then what were the most significant literary
>
>I'd just like to point out that 'some' there is everybody except Gygax.
>Yes, D&D took influences from all over the place, notably form those
>mentioned in the article, but in the case of LotR Gygax protesteth too
>much.

D&D in play is a lot more like Leiber and Burroughs and than it is
like Tolkien.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 10:12 pm
From: "Marko Amnell"

<ramsey@ramsey-campbell.com> wrote in message
d5bb0fe4-fb63-4f6a-9292-7e2e957cd65a@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 20, 10:13 pm, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>> This is quite interesting. It would be even better, if the author
>> suggested a way of approaching these "largely unknown" authors. Of them,
>> I didn't know only Fritz Leiber, but haven't read their works except
>> Poul Anderson's. And that's because I can't. I've tried reading about
>> Cthulhu several times, to no avail. And I've endured reading only one or
>> two pieces (at most) each by Burroughs, Howard, Vance and Merritt. Being
>> early (or classic) writers in the genre does not, unfortunately, mean
>> quality writing. Or a style I can stomach.
>
> [...]
>
> On Lovecraft, try reading his other work - it's very varied, and he's
> probably the most important twentieth-century writer in his field.
> "The Colour out of Space", THE CASE OF CHARLES DEXTER WARD, "The Rats
> in the Walls"... Burroughs, Merritt and even Howard are stylistically
> patchy, but Vance most certainly means "quality writing" - he's an
> enviably fine stylist, and at least as witty as Leiber (who is one of
> he twentieth-century masters of supernatural horror and fantasy, and
> no slouch in his science fiction either).

Patok mentioned Cthulhu, so it sounds like he is interested in
Lovecraft's mythos stories in particular. I would
suggest that another way of approaching Lovecraft would
be to sample some of the adaptations of his mythos stories
to other media. Here are some that I've enjoyed.
Most of these can be found easily on the Internet.

"The Call of Cthulhu"
- there is finally a film which follows the plot
of the story quite closely; although released in
2005, it was produced as a black and white silent
film that looks like it was made in the 1920s,
giving it a very Lovecraftian feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu_(film)
- the story was also produced as an audiobook, in
which the story is read verbatim.

"The Shadow Over Innsmouth"
- has been produced as a radio play
- the film "Dagon" is based on the story (not on
Lovecraft's short story "Dagon"), but it was
relocated to Spain, as it was a Spanish production
- the film "Cthulhu" is also based on the same story,
but the location was moved yet again, this time
from the east coast to the west coast of the U.S.
- the video game "The Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of
the Earth" is closely based on the story, down to details
like the drunk who can fill you in on the secrets of the
town's history. I have spoken with one of the designers
of the game and he seemed very pleased that I liked
the hilarious cameo appearance by G. Edgar Hoover.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Cthulhu:_Dark_Corners_of_the_Earth

"At The Mountains of Madness"
- has been produced as a radio play

"The Dunwich Horror"
- was made into a movie of the same name in the 1970
(and into a very bad made-for-TV movie in 2009
which I have not seen).

There is an audio production of Lovecraft's poem
"The Fungi from Yuggoth" which includes original
music. There are also audio productions of other
mythos short pieces, such as "Nyarlathotep."

I would also recommend the interesting biography
of Lovecraft by the well-known French writer
Michel Houllebecq entitled "H.P. Lovecraft:
Contre le monde, contre la vie." An English
translation is available.


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TOPIC: Jalousie: A Thing of Purest Magnificence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/af0c465e4afc566a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 3:13 am
From: Mark


On Nov 20, 10:52 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV0IcFyXUWs&feature=related

I was going to reply with, "As Time
Goes By", but you beat me to it. The
person who made that music video
did a fine job.

--
Mark

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TOPIC: Bonham-Carter and Enid Blyton
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/fbdf16f47ae75d44?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 7:18 am
From: Melanie Sands


Watching a bit of "Enid" (Enid Blyton) with Helena Bonham Carter on
BBC, (have recorded it so will watch rest later) I then read an
interview with H B-C where she apparently said that Enid Bylton
was "bonkers and a bad mother".

Enid Blyton wrote over 750 childrens books, plus magazine stories,
there was a time where she wrote an estimated 10'000 words per day.
Yes, that's TEN THOUSAND WORDS PER DAY.


I listened to Stephen Kings's "On Writing", read by the author (one
of the few authors who can also READ as well as write - usually
authors reading of their books makes one comatose - ) and he
said he writes 2'000 words a day, which is an awful lot.
George Sand wrote 16 pages per night, also a large amount.


Anway, to come to the point - sooner or later in the life of every
famous person, one of their children will crop up with a "Mommy
Dearest" book which slanders and whithers the reputation of said
mommy (or daddy) who was a famous person and never had time
for their kids.
Every parent knows, with kids, you're damned if you do, and you're
damned if you don't.
If you're there, you stifle them, if you're not, you're a neglecting
parent and all their problems are your fault.
If you love them, you're too clingy, if you maintatin a distance,
you're
a cold hag who's fatally damaged their emotional abilities to cope.
If you lay down the law, you're a reign-of-terror, if you let them
decide,
you're an incompetent weakling who should have shown them the
boundries.
If you're at home for them all day and night, you're a loser who
should get a life, if you have a career you're a bad parent
who never should have had kids.

Did Susannah Shakespeare and sister Judith and brother Hamnet
complain that their father was off in London so much? Did John Adams'
children complain that he was off in Philly and Washington and France
and England forming the new US of A? Yes, they did, actually.


Helena Bonham-Carter's 6 year-old son took her ENID script and threw
it
across the room, complaining: "I like you but I don't like what you
do,
because it takes too long." - even though the filming of Enid only
took a
record 16 days. Yup, another "Mommy Dearest" novel in the making!


Melanie

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TOPIC: Best Book Covers of 2009
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 9:05 am
From: rab


Amazon.com: http://tr.im/BestCovers2009


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TOPIC: David Irving Speaks In Chicago 11/23
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:22 pm
From: Hal Womack 3-dan


COURTESY CROSSPOST & COMMENT

By Hal Womack 3-dan
http://www.myspace.com/halwomack
http://tinyurl.com/8fp6zw

http://www.fpp.co.uk/

{Chicago
Monday, November 23, 7 pm. The talk is about Hitler's favorite field
marshal, Rommel: Was he a traitor, or not?

Indianapolis: Sunday, November 22, 6 pm}

{Results 1 - 10 of about 66,900 for "hard to keep a good man down"}
Google Web search.

David Irving ranks as one of Earth's greatest living historians and
certainly at the top of the heap WRT Hitler's Third Reich
(1933-45). His visit & speech Monday 23 November will be a precious
honor for the City of Chicago.

The 71 year-old Mr.Irving has a handshake like a polite bulldozer (and
I'm a rather large chap myself). 'Twould be wrong to infer from this
remark that he's trying at all to be jock-pushy, rather simply that
when one grasps his hand in greeting, one realizes its quite unusual
strength. I had the occasion to learn this fact when meeting D.I. at
his banquet in San Francisco last July 23rd. At that point he had
already given his talk, which had demonstrated in the most natural &
interesting manner his detailed grasp of original documents down to
the page #'s when responding to questions from the attendees. His
original research into Jewish metamarketing strategy for their world-
conquering "Holocaust (tm)" psywar campaign, which was brought up by a
question in passing, also added to the memorable quality of the
evening, as I have discussed previously*.

An Austrian appellate court released D.I. in 2006 after 400 days of
strict solitary confinement on the charge of having given a lecture by
invitation to university students in 1989 against the wishes of the
Jews.

Yes, the same Jews who at the beginning of this year slew
some 1400 helpless prisoners in the Gaza Massacre, including 300+
children. And this same Kabal of world-bestriding looters, liars &
killers are using one of their front groups masked as "Anti-Racist
Action** to lauch physical attacks against Mr.Irving's appearances in
the US, with the connivance of local "law-enforcement" (laughingly so-
called) officials and the kept local propaganda media, very much
including the faux "Indymedia". The Jews now define a "fascist" as
anyone who objects to paying for their murdering children by the
truckload --or by the cityful. Similarly, they define an "anti-Semite"
as anyone who dares to resist paying for their slaughter of Semites,
in which last category Arabs outnumber Jews by more than 10 to 1.

David Irving might be called the last of the old school British
Imperialists, as sharply distinguished from the Tony Blair school of
JAPE jackals. (That's "Jewish-American Empire".)
D.I's announced concluding lecture title for his U.S. tour betrays his
idiosyncratic accent. Any thoughtful & courageous reader of this post
in Chicago would be wrong to let herself be put off by this particular
conceit, as long as she does have some personal interest in the Atomic
War, as I call WW2.

Were the redoubtable Kathy Kelly of Chicago to shake hands with her
fellow ex-con, now that would be a sight to see!

"May the circle be unbroken...."
.....................................
*
http://tinyurl.com/ycdkajy

Newsgroups: soc.history, soc.culture.usa, alt.politics,
rec.arts.books, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: Hal Womack 3-dan <hal.wom...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 02:03:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Hero Historian From U.K. Tours East Coast. David Irving To
Speak Also In Chicago

...............................................

**
http://www.antiracistaction.us/

http://tinyurl.com/yb2ym34
{The Jerusalem Post Internet Edition

NY survivors enraged by Irving's tour
Nov. 13, 2009
E.B. SOLOMONT, Jerusalem Post correspondent in NEW YORK , THE
JERUSALEM POST

A group representing Holocaust survivors is calling on New York
institutions to boycott Holocaust-denier David Irving, who is planning
a visit to the Big Apple over the weekend.}
......................................................

Parting Note = Any self-starting normal alias "gentile" reader
interested in taking advantage of this rare opportunity had better be
quick about making her contact, persistent and polite. D.I has to
screen out the hired thugs as best he can.

END OF NEW MATERIAL

================================

My Hot Lynx:

Fats Waller - "Your Feet's Too Big"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in1eK3x1PBI

Burl Ives (my favorite Mason, after Granpa Gump) sings "Big Rock Candy
Mountain":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4rG5nB7wB0

1.) Leadbelly Picks Cotton (1945)
http://tinyurl.com/7cnuw8

'Cause Texas sho'nuff needs all the help She can get.
Louisiana to her aid!

"If Americans Knew" -- Pro journalist Alison Weir's basic Website on
Palestine:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

The Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of
Israel (PACBI),
http://www.pacbi.org/

A.) On Thursday, the 8th of June 1967, Jews murder 34 US sailors in
order to show Pentagon brass who's running the show after the ride
through Dealey Plaza fours years before:
http://www.ussliberty.org/

The picture of eight year-old Akaber Zaid
http://tinyurl.com/yqd75d
and the story from the then leading writer HA'ARETZ of her murder by
the Guess Whoose:
http://www.counterpunch.org/levy03272006.html

"There Is Power In The Blood" | Mahalia Jackson
http://tinyurl.com/yhu6ecs

Abir Aramin, age 9, murdered by the Jews*
on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, her picture:
http://tinyurl.com/2l6ogh
An Israeli mother, a Jewess, comments on the story:
http://tinyurl.com/3amvos

* (For a discussion of the precise use of this critical term, please
see at bottom Appendix 1.)

Yolanda Adams - "How I Got Over"
http://tinyurl.com/yfodhjj

***Beethoven Appassionata Op 57 Mov 3 Valentina Lisitsa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o3eiEHmJUA

World Heroines of the Third Millennium AD:
N.B. the entry for Hanadi Tayseer Jaradat
http://www.aztlan.net/women_martyrs.htm

Iman al-Hams, age 13, STDJ [= "Shot To Death by Jews"]
on 5 October 2004 in Rafah in Gaza.
http://tinyurl.com/dehqxu = vixpic

October 25, 2004
The Killing of Iman al-Hams
Executing Another Child in Rafah
By OMAR BARGHOUTI
http://www.counterpunch.org/barghouti10252004.html

WIKI: "Subsequent to his acquittal, Captain R., was promoted to the
rank of major. In March 2006, he received 82,000 New Israel Shekels
(roughly $17,000) to compensate him for his defense expenditures and
time spent in jail.Captain R. also filed a libel suit against Dayan
and Channel 2."

Chopin Piano Sonata No.2 Op.35 - Marche Funèbre, Valentina Igoshina
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4da5zExuk8

**** B.) Flying Trapeze Aerial Voltige
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPWJc8sLhjo
The more often one watches the greatest 4'21" of human high jinks ever
on tape, the bester it gets. Flow ye tears of joy, the sheriff said.

http://peyote.com/gardening-pictures/peyote.jpg
Hero of the Twentieth Century:
http://tinyurl.com/3dlhhb

Bob Marley - Redemption Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXRGdZdonM
- no woman no cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg2n039txnk

Chopin - Valentina Igoshina - Polonaise in A Flat 'Heroique'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74fk9BTv5U

"What A Wonderful World!" -- Louis Armstrong
http://tinyurl.com/2f2ls7

Nadine Fernández dances:
A) Tribal Fusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLhabHB52Bg
B) Samba-Oriental with Drum Solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPNc1ywgbkU

.........................................................................

Jesus Christ - Woody Guthrie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDS00Pnhkqk

{1 John 4 (King James Version):

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for
he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God
whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love
his brother also.}
http://www.biblegateway.com/

"Who is your God?" Song video by Desert Rose; recommended by Cynthia
McKinney, with only 116 YouTube views as of 091015 but good for
clearing the sinuses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H99mzLiBenw
.........................................................................

Jimmy Rodgers: Kisses sweeter than wine
http://tinyurl.com/ls38fn

Honeycomb (1965)
http://tinyurl.com/oycwd6
.............................................................

Calabi-Yau manifold =
http://members.wri.com/jeffb/visualization/calabi-spin.gif
......................................................................

Elvis Presley Jailhouse Rock 1957 colour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzV_0l5ILI

Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles living for the city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJYUSdX-Rps
(so much for the numbers)

2.) Capoeira Samba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mf_PTB8juc

3.) Mahalia Jackson sings Gospel:
"Joshua Fit de Battle of Jericho"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGkXB_unAW4&NR=1
"Go Tell It On the Mountain"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACOnUyfUXdQ

4.) Kali Dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOmm1AglUc&NR=1

5.) Get Your Kix With Pele
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QEmnP48PEc

6.) Old Folks' Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gsqBEPSrd0
Live Berlin version =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skYfPirQHbY

7.) Five Minutes With Fernando Botero @ Abu Ghraib
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoleMx-sxqQ

8.) Tahitian Dance -- Corinne
http://tinyurl.com/7mmlg8

9.) Joe Biden, "I am a Zionist."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmD0G2iASk0

10.) Today In Palestine, compiled by Shadi Fadda & Co:
www.theheadlines.org

11.) Paul Robeson Sings "Old Man River"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9WayN7R-s

12.) Martial Law USA?
9.5' video from Global Research
http://tinyurl.com/629yoh

13.) Danca Brasil Samba Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THk5GB3JYG4

14.) 4 IRANIAN NEWS SOURCES:
http://www.tehrantimes.com/
http://www2.irna.ir/en/
http://www.parstimes.com/media/iran/
http://www.presstv.ir/default.aspx

15.) Ladysmith Black Mambazo does "Homeless"
http://tinyurl.com/5oo359

16.) Street Drummer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjyQkrE8Mok&NR=1
--or
http://tinyurl.com/6zmp5r

17.) African Choral
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSl4w1ilw8s

18.) LONG KISS GOODNIGHT [movie 1996]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116908/

19.) "Amazing Grace" sung in Cherokee on You Tube:
http://tinyurl.com/6r7snl OR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvYIjFtPQEk

20.) _Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand
Years_ (1994) by Israel Shahak
http://tinyurl.com/8gaoac

21.) Six Brazilian Chorus Girls
http://tinyurl.com/8wyey8

22.) The late George Carlin sings Ron Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/2lzxdt

23.) The 9/11 Lie (video):
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/333.html

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h3P7POHnJc

24.) "Under the Boardwalk" (1964) by The Drifters.
http://tinyurl.com/6nby9x

25.) "Sittin' On the Dock of the Bay" by Otis Redding.
{"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by WMG" --
YouTube.}

26.) Kobe Bryant in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeXZY4eVLlo

28.) http://www.rafahtoday.org/
................................................

30.) Here's the link to what I wrote on the eve of SonnaBush's
(fronting for Aerial Shaboom) invasion of Iraq:
http://tinyurl.com/2xcvdo

(The tag end of the piece was stuck on rather roughly by the HANDSTAND
editor & could profit from a bit of pruning.)

If any reader can find another article from that critical moment which
has better stood the test of time, will she please be so kind as to
tell me about it?
...........................................................................

31.) February 7, 2008
"It's the Real Thing:
Hugo Chávez's Coca"

By NIKOLAS KOZLOFF

http://tinyurl.com/ywjauf
............................................................

http://tinyurl.com/coclre
The New York Times

March 14, 2009
Op-Ed Contributor

Let Me Chew My Coca Leaves

By EVO MORALES AYMA
La Paz, Bolivia

..................................................................

32.) For Susan Abulhawa's new novel of Palestine, SCAR OF DAVID (2006)
http://tinyurl.com/2n77bo
...................................................................

33.) http://www.americanfreepress.net/

FINAL JUDGMENT by Michael Collins Piper, first published in 1994 and
now in its 6th edition, lays out the Jewish background to the JFK hit
in >600 fascinating pages (which badly need editing, evenso --attn:
M&W).

(See the AFP site above also for the moving letter of 29 November 2006
from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,
President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, directly addressed to
"Noble Americans" --maybe your local jewspaper forgot to pass it along
to you?)

On the AFP site linked above I just now (Tuesday 071211)
found the following Michael More out-take from Sicko about a certain
northern country:
http://tinyurl.com/23zgxu

34.) The leading U.S. academic expert on foreign policy = the author
James Petras, friend of Fidel Castro, of President
Hugo Chavez and of FARC.
http://petras.lahaine.org/
_Zionism, Militarism and the Decline of US Power_ (Paperback)
by James Petras
.....................................................................
35.)
Five Principal Joojingo or "JJ" resources:
1. http://www.aipac.org/
2. The Bronfmen @ http://www.acbp.net/
3. http://www.jinsa.org/
4. http://www.adl.org/
5. http://www.hasbara.co.il/

Five Righteous Jewish Antidotes:
1. http://www.ostrovskyfineart.com/index.htm
2. http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm
3. http://www.israelshamir.net/
4. http://tinyurl.com/3c9jm8
5. Jascha Heifetz plays a) Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto: 1st mov.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFaq9kTlcaY
[Film clip from the movie _Carnegie Hall_ (1947)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039244/ ]
b) Hora Staccato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mag2mc5Vva0
c) Rondo by Mozart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVSgx7gKc_k
d) Richard Strauss "An eisamer Quelle" op.9 no.2
http://tinyurl.com/ygqlm2g
........................................................

36.) US Alliance Afghan Genocide -
Six Million Excess Deaths?

By Dr Gideon Polya

08 November, 2007 Countercurrents.org

http://tinyurl.com/36ylq2
..........................................................................

37.) All rise,
This clip was the first time I ever saw Marvin Gaye perform. The word
in my mind = "composure".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A
(Has this cut been slightly sabotaged?)
http://www.counterpunch.org/dolby04032007.html
..........................................................................
38.) Kidz Today:
A) Iron Maiden The Trooper By Gauchos
http://tinyurl.com/8mj8nx
B) The Impeach Bush Club Parade
http://tinyurl.com/88lnb9
...............................................................

39.) A valuable but erratic site:
http://www.counterpunch.org/

40.) Flag of USrael:
http://www.nogw.com/images/inminds.jpg

43.) http://www.jewwatch.com/

44.) http://www.zundelsite.org/

Carl Orff: Carmina Burana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEllLECo4OM

45.) http://margaritaville.com/
[cartoon panel]
http://tinyurl.com/2kyyc9
.............................................
46.) "Culture of Life News":
http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/

49.) http://www.currentissues.tv/

50.) Excellent 1997 documentary showing Billary burning
down American rainbow Protestants in their own Texas home: http://www.waco93.com/

51.) ("Nadine Eats Pizza in Ramallah")
http://www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/Contributor47.htm

53.) Alan Pogue's Texas Center for Documentary Photography
http://www.documentaryphotographs.com/
................................................................
54.) Big avalanche ( O-nadare) Joseki (by Satoshi Yuki 9-dan
Professional on Japanese TV)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIftm71MzTc&NR=1
..................................................
http://vcnv.org/
http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=1
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=491
Bharatanatyam Bharatnatyam Indian dance
http://tinyurl.com/5cl88n
Paris Hilton answers McCain:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/dbaby4.jpg
http://www.nelsonmandela.org/
http://www.parnasse.com/gaia.jpg
http://www.sf911truth.org/
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
http://www.aztlan.net/
http://www.valleyofthewolvesiraq.com/high/main.html
http://electronicintifada.net/new.shtml
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/index.php
http://antiwar.com/
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/index.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.al-awda.org/
http://www.imemc.org/
http://www.vcnv.org/
http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/3301/58/
http://www.cnionline.org/
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=
http://www.honestmediatoday.com/index.htm
http://prorev.com/indexa.htm
http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
http://www.marwenmedia.com/index.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
http://www.vho.org/ = Germar Rudolph
http://www.malaysiasun.com/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Kathak in Varanasi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqfQsILe7AM
(Wednesday '090311 -- I just found this latest addition
to my Lynx above. Since the list is getting rather long, I will
particularly appreciate any sincere suggestions from friendly readers
on which items to toss.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBPFvp750sc
("Let It Be!")
Feline Fine (MHL):
http://tinyurl.com/8xmwlt

http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150 for "free your mind, the rest will
follow".
...................................................
All sincere comments on this list are welcome; some links will blink
out, necessitating updating, so will you please email me when you find
one such? Last list (partial) review = Thursday 090813.

Protocol: Top posting in follow-ups 'cause that way makes most sense
to me
and placing the reply at the bottom of the thread as it appears on my
Google newsreader. BTW does some friendly expert want to recommend a
better newsreader aka Usenet access tool,
especially for posting, then I'm all ear.

.....................................................................
APPENDIX 1:
Thus plain speech and accurate English, in the same sense that we have
long been wont truly to say that in the 1930's
the Japanese invaded China; on 22 June 1941, the Germans
invaded Russia (then styled the USSR) and in later decades the
Americans have attacked Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, the
Dominican Republic, Lebanon, Nicaragua, Grenada,
Panama, Serbia, Iraq and and Afghanistan (partial list), murdering
more than ten million people in the last twenty years alone.
Because of the long-noted peculiar nature of the distributed
nationality of world Jewry,
the ins & outs of this most grave accusation against them bear
extended discussion so that we, the normal alias "gentile" rainbow
righteous Seven Billion of Earth, may achieve a clear understanding of
the character of the doomed tyranny --sometimes called, among other
names,
"JAT" for Jewish-American T.-- which presently oppresses us. Despite
the opprobrium of the sister term "self-righteous",
'tis of the greatest importance IMHO for those who do stand for
justice to develop a sense of self-awareness and a firm grasp of the
vital distinction between ourselves vs. the imperial criminals,
addicted as they are to waging aggressive war.
Those last two fatal words mean mass murder, torture, industrial-
strength lies aka "mainstream news media" and
robbery on a planetary scale. Each of us should meditate regularly on
individual cases of our choice --for example,
those of the Rabbo girls in Gaza, of Iman al-Hams, of Akaber Zaid, of
Abir Aramin and of Rachel Corrie-- in order to prepare ourselves for
the intellectual exercise of multiplying by the necessary factor of
millions
the fate of any one given victim. Such preparation will provide us
with the motive for constructing the essential hierarchy
of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Earth.
Many inspiring examples in history remind us that
yagotta have somebody to beat anybody. We Americans (here to speak of
my own nation) have the duty and the opportunity to learn from the
successes of Presidents Hugo Chavez, Nelson Mandela, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad, Evo Morales, Rafael Correa, Fernando Lugo and Hizbullah
Secretary-General
Hassan Nasrallah, among others.

Will we learn to save time by using positive grammar to the max? Thus
to transform a Jewish proverb, she who can endure the evil will live
to see glory. Let our watchwords be: Save life! Live and let live.
Friendly competition. Mercy* to all criminals, even the Bushez,
Clintonz and Obama meaning, of course, that first we put them at our
mercy.
From dissent and protest to popular accord, from tail-chasing
"activism" to vast vision to sound strategy to bold action to
victory!
{Results 1 - 10 of about 398,000 for German invasion of Russia.}

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Date: Sun, Nov 22 2009 12:01 am
From: The Other


"Marko Amnell" <marko.amnell@kolumbus.fi> writes:

> I'm curious. Have you seen the very interesting and well made BBC
> documentary "The Power of Nightmares"? It was produced by Adam
> Curtis and studies the influence of Leo Strauss on the neocons, and
> of Sayyid Qutb on the Islamic extremists, and draws many interesting
> parallels between them. Here is a short blurb:
>
> "Both [the Islamists and Neoconservatives] were idealists who were
> born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better
> world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that
> failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way
> that either intended. Together, they created today's nightmare
> vision of a secret, organized evil that threatens the world. A
> fantasy that politicians then found restored their power and
> authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears
> became the most powerful."

Ah, the neocons again. No, I haven't seen the show. I can't stand
watching the BBC. A lot seems wrong in that paragraph, though. First
of all, neoconservatism largely changed the world in the exact ways it
intended. The aggressive Cold War in the 1980s had a lot to do with
the collapse of the Soviet Union. The neocons weren't the only ones
behind that, but they were a main force, and that was by far the
biggest change they were involved in. Other neocon changes: Welfare
reform significantly reduced the number of people on welfare. The
"broken windows" approach to policing turned New York City around in
the 1990s. In politics, the neocons basically took over the
conservative movement and the Republican Party over the span of a
decade, in the 1980s, to where some of them bragged that
neoconservatism had now become just conservatism. Then of course
there's the disastrous foreign policy after 2001; that undeniably
changed the world in ways the neocons didn't intend. But that was
just one of many neocon campaigns.

I think there's some similarity between neoconservatism and Qutb, but
it shouldn't be overstated. If you remember, the initial
neoconservative explanation for the liberal failure, i.e., for the
failure of LBJ's Great Society programs, was the Burkean idea of
unintended consequences. I doubt if Qutb put anywhere near as much
emphasis on unintended consequences as the neocons did. (The irony of
the neocons' more recent ambitious, Jacobin program to spread
democracy in the Middle East, with its blithe lack of concern for
unintended consequences, was noted at the time.) In the late 1960s
and early 1970s, the neocons did get into the whole culture war thing,
and their fight against post-bourgeois decadence was in fact similar
to Qutb's. But that was only one of several neocon issues. By the
1980s the main culture warriors were in the evangelical right, which
was by then the neocons' coalition partner.

And what's this secret evil that in the neocon vision threatens the
world, anyway? Is it jihad? Radical Islam? No neocon claims those
are secret. Anyway, I agree with the neocons that radical Islam is
organized (though not monolithic) and that it threatens the Western
world, especially Western Europe. Lot's of non-neocons would agree.

> Also, I suppose you already know about Heinrich Meier's book _Carl
> Schmitt and Leo Strauss: The Hidden Dialogue_? Definitely worth
> reading.

I haven't read it, but it seems well regarded. The only thing I read
by Strauss was his "Notes on Carl Schmitt's The Concept of the
Political", which was included in the paperback edition I bought. I
don't think there's much point in my reading Meier's book if I haven't
read Strauss.


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