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* Is this perfectly clear now? - 4 messages, 2 authors
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* Big Trouble for Bibi - 11 messages, 4 authors
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* Franz Neumann on Carl Schmitt - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Hannah Arendt's Wrinkled Cunt Rides Again - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Is this perfectly clear now?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/4e2c279aa5016671?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 10 2009 11:44 pm
From: Patok
Stratum101 wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2:52 pm, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Stratum101 wrote:
>>> On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>>>> On Nov 10, 12:12 pm, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>>>>> See the Wikipedia entry for the Czech Spartakiad
>>>>> at
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakiad_(Czechoslovakia)
>>>>> I don't know if the event still exists, but
>>>>> a Czech emigre did explain it to me once in
>>>>> terms that approach the clarity here.
>>>>> Throughout, the piece makes an admirable
>>>>> attempt at exploiting consistency in English
>>>>> grammar. For instance, the past tense of "do"
>>>>> is "doed".
>>>> When you navigate there, make sure the final
>>>> paranthesis is in the URL. Here's another
>>>> copy of the link:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakiad_(Czechoslovakia)
>>> Oh, to hell with it.
>> To paraphrase an old Eastern European saying, the problem is in
>> your TV. All your links are fine, including the very first one. Whether
>> the parenthesis is included in the URL when you read, is a function of
>> your news reader - in your case GG - and that's something no newsgroup
>> literate should be using,
>
> Sorry. I've lost interest in newsgroups and anything
> not supported by Google fails to arouse my curiosity
Your loss, then. Can't help. :)
> except binaries of 19th century Texas schoolmarms with
> names like Miss Hyacinth grilling their charges on the
> Helmholtz equation.
>
> Or Hyacinth topless, of course.
Whose curiosity wouldn't be "aroused" by these images, I wonder.
> Speaking of 19th century Texans, I don't think
> I've ever seen a picture of Mrs. Baird, the
> baker. I'd like not to see her bread on
> grocery shelves.
>
> Have taken to buying a fat little baguette at
> Walmart (it's only a buck) where they change
> the label from "Italian bread" to "French
> bread" at about noon. If they could just produce
> sourdough... but there's no palate for that
> around here.
What kinds of bread do Texans eat? Sourdough seems to be pretty
standard on the East Coast, although I personally don't like it. I
prefer breads with benefits - like with kalamata olives, or garlic
peppercorn, or onion rye. Today I saw pretzel bread in the local
supermarket, but it was too expensive for its size, so I abstained. But
it looked and felt very proper, indeed.
--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 1:30 am
From: Stratum101
On Nov 11, 1:44 am, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stratum101 wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 2:52 pm, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Stratum101 wrote:
> >>> On Nov 10, 12:15 pm, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 10, 12:12 pm, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
> >>>>> See the Wikipedia entry for the Czech Spartakiad
> >>>>> at
> >>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakiad_(Czechoslovakia)
> >>>>> I don't know if the event still exists, but
> >>>>> a Czech emigre did explain it to me once in
> >>>>> terms that approach the clarity here.
> >>>>> Throughout, the piece makes an admirable
> >>>>> attempt at exploiting consistency in English
> >>>>> grammar. For instance, the past tense of "do"
> >>>>> is "doed".
> >>>> When you navigate there, make sure the final
> >>>> paranthesis is in the URL. Here's another
> >>>> copy of the link:
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakiad_(Czechoslovakia)
> >>> Oh, to hell with it.
> >> To paraphrase an old Eastern European saying, the problem is in
> >> your TV. All your links are fine, including the very first one. Whether
> >> the parenthesis is included in the URL when you read, is a function of
> >> your news reader - in your case GG - and that's something no newsgroup
> >> literate should be using,
>
> > Sorry. I've lost interest in newsgroups and anything
> > not supported by Google fails to arouse my curiosity
>
> Your loss, then. Can't help. :)
>
> > except binaries of 19th century Texas schoolmarms with
> > names like Miss Hyacinth grilling their charges on the
> > Helmholtz equation.
>
> > Or Hyacinth topless, of course.
>
> Whose curiosity wouldn't be "aroused" by these images, I wonder.
>
> > Speaking of 19th century Texans, I don't think
> > I've ever seen a picture of Mrs. Baird, the
> > baker. I'd like not to see her bread on
> > grocery shelves.
>
> > Have taken to buying a fat little baguette at
> > Walmart (it's only a buck) where they change
> > the label from "Italian bread" to "French
> > bread" at about noon. If they could just produce
> > sourdough... but there's no palate for that
> > around here.
>
> What kinds of bread do Texans eat?
A coarse white bread that does not toast well.
In Texas, there are two choices: yesterday's
Mrs. Baird's, or the day before yesterday's
Mrs. Baird's.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 2:07 am
From: Patok
Stratum101 wrote:
> On Nov 11, 1:44 am, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What kinds of bread do Texans eat?
>
> A coarse white bread that does not toast well.
>
> In Texas, there are two choices: yesterday's
> Mrs. Baird's, or the day before yesterday's
> Mrs. Baird's.
You gave my sympathy, then. At first I thought you were making
generalized fun of Texas bread, but now I looked it up, and not only was
there actually a Mrs. Baird who made bread, but her name was Ninnie to boot.
Don't give up. Cheers!
--
You'd be crazy to e-mail me with the crazy. But leave the div alone.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:00 am
From: Stratum101
On Nov 11, 4:07 am, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stratum101 wrote:
> > On Nov 11, 1:44 am, Patok <crazy.div.pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What kinds of bread do Texans eat?
>
> > A coarse white bread that does not toast well.
>
> > In Texas, there are two choices: yesterday's
> > Mrs. Baird's, or the day before yesterday's
> > Mrs. Baird's.
>
> You gave my sympathy, then. At first I thought you were making
> generalized fun of Texas bread, but now I looked it up, and not only was
> there actually a Mrs. Baird who made bread, but her name was Ninnie to boot.
> Don't give up. Cheers!
>
A kind-hearted Fort Worth woman who killed her diabetic
husband with sweets and contributed mightily to
Protestant culture.
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TOPIC: Big Trouble for Bibi
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/c210bd54e82eb9da?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 5:30 am
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx"
On Nov 11, 1:51 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds to
> > have full South African citizenship.
>
> Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
> before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> all over the land.
>
> > Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> > seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian targets,
> > nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their murdered
> > mothers.
>
> Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
> by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
> heads--and you know it, so why do you lie? Why? What's in it for ya,
> Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
> "civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
> targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
> Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.
>
>
>
> > Israel - setting old standards in inhuman butchery.
>
> The "inhuman butchery" is all in your fishmouth, Mako-Face.
>
> Most comical thing about these hatebag "Progressive Liberal" scum is
> the way they are never honest with themselves enough to acknowledge
> that there's nary a hair of daylight to be seen between their position
> on Israel and that of any scum skinhead off the street.
>
> They never stop and think, like, "Hmm . . . maybe there is no
> difference?" Because I'll put you straight, right down in front,
> baby. There ain't one thing any skinhead can say that can ever agree
> with anything from me.
>
> Something wrong with you, Jack, and that sho' enuf leaves you good for
> nothin but your jive-ass namesake: food for the fishes.
> --
> --
> JM
>
> http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/03/blue-steel-jews.html
http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 4:56 am
From: "Fish Supper"
"Just Me" <jpdm45@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481-bc68-1418d44842b5@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds
> to
> have full South African citizenship.
Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
all over the land.
=======
Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy thawts
'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
Loothur King"
The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
peace between your ears - where nothing happens.
> Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian
> targets,
> nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their
> murdered
> mothers.
Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
heads--and you know it, so why do you lie?
==============
you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza - an atrocity that tooks months
of planning which was admitted by the Israelis themselves - which means they
were planning teh attack while the ceasefire with Hamas still held. True to
Israeli form, duplicitous, lying criminals.
Why? What's in it for ya,
Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
"civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.
===============
1. ALL OF GAZA is a civilian target you muppet - it's the most densely
populated strip of earth in the world
2. The use of white phosphorous in any civilian area - or indeed against
enemy cmbatants - is outlawed under the Geneva Treaty and is consequently a
war crime.
3. I'll give you more than one example of its war crime:
1.
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evidence-war-crimes -
by Human Rights Watch
"dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
happen.
" said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
that, if you ask me.)
2. http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html - from The Christian
Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
"Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
crowded refugee camp.
Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
illegal."
IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense
Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
"The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"
But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.
"I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the population
can't flee."
3.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-white-phosphorus-gaza-clear-undeniable-20090119-
from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
"The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
"such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
civilians, is a war crime," she said"
4.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-civilians
- from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
Fresh evidence of the firing of white phosphorus weapons by Israeli forces
in Gaza has emerged from witnesses heard by the Guardian and first hand
accounts by human rights groups of their use against civilians.
Graphic descriptions of attacks by Israeli forces near the Gaza town of Khan
Younis are contained in footage shot by Fida Qishta for the International
Solidarity Movement and obtained by the Guardian.
A woman described how on Tuesday Israeli forces "started to fire phosphorus
bombs against the people, of course, they are civilians ..."
A man added: "A fire broke out and we have to leave out. Fires broke out on
the top of the houses. We all jumped out with our women and daughters put
off the fire. They were doing that, to help the special forces to occupy the
houses. after we put off the fires, they started to shoot towards us. Then
they started to raze the houses".
5.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5447590.ece -
Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells
I could go on and on and on, but that's enough to prove you to be a liar as
well as an idiot. Now go and wipe the spittle from your keyboard.
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:19 am
From: "Fish Supper"
"Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx" <john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:ca010669-192e-421c-a66b-69c8d2ad8ba1@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 11, 1:51 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg
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I doubt very much that he will follow or read your links, KC - and he
certainly won't *think* about them (lol, can you imagine this cretin
*thinking* about anything? The eyebrows draw together, the brow furrows, the
nose wrinkles, his little fists tighten and he focusses really, really hard
into infinite space and.......aaarghh, nope, can't do it) - but they are
really good, so keep 'em coming please.
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 8:34 am
From: "Grand Mal"
"Just Me" <jpdm45@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:94b5b678-dbdf-46f3-9b2d-82fd195639a6@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 9, 3:03 pm, "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > You just get worse as you grow older.
>
> -You don't stop to think it might be going the other way? Quick! Take a
> -peek in your pants to see there's any safety pins or Snuggies in
> -sight.
>
> Keep your attentions outa my pants.
What? And just leave you there squalling and kicking and stinking
while you so badly need a change?
> > What do you figure will be the best
> > way to bring peace to the area, ethnic cleansing? Or should 10 million
> > people just shut up and do what their masters tell them to do?
>
> -They should stop acting like a bunch of scalp-hunting Comanches,
> -settle down, go back to their jobs, and sign up to become good Israeli
> -citizens. Otherwise they ain't nothing but a bunch of pride-crazy cry
> -babies. What if our Navajos and Apaches were still carrying on like
> -those spoiled brat Arabs? And had the support of the UN and the
> -European Union?
>
> Good analogy. Let's recap what I remember of the American policy re.
> Native
> Indians...
> They are to meekly gather when rounded up and march to and live peacefully
> on the piece of land designated for them. If that piece of land becomes
> otherwise useful, they are to meekly gather again and move to somewhere
> else. If they resist they will be slaughtered, man, woman and child. There
> is no treaty with them or promise to them that's binding on the
> government.
> They will not be allowed to assimilate fully into society until they are
> so
> few that they are statistically insignifigant.
There. See? That right there is just what I mean when I say you must
have an open safety pin sticking in your bum, that you should be
kicking and howling, pissing and moaning so. I mean, I hear all that
kind of yowling, and all I can ask is "What is the point?" other than
what you've got from that sprung pin in your Snuggies.
What happened here between the Indians and the white man is what
happened, and I don't know that anyone can say it could have happened
in any way other than it did. And despite all the Canadian braggery
about how you've "never had any Indian Wars", well that's just bunk as
the infamous North-West Rebellion and the concurrent Cree uprising of
1885 is remembered, as both had arisen due to broken treaties, both
with the Métis and the Cree. So you ain't so damn holy.
***************************************************************
Ohyeah, that was a terrible black eye in Canadian history. About 70 Native
people died, and 50 on the Gov't side.
I'm not alking about war, laddybuck, I'm talking about massacre. I'm talking
about slaughter of women and children by an army, deliberate genocide,
government-mandated ethnic cleansing. Don't fucking pretend you don't know
the difference.
*******************************************************************
It's hard to find a greater hypocrisy than for any white man living
anywhere in North America to be shitting his pants over the way he and
his forebears came to be living there, at the expense of some presumed
Aboriginal "ownership" of the land. Ain't no goddam such "ownership".
He who has the power to take it, gets it. And there's no way that this
entire hemisphere was going to be left by the civilized world in the
hands of savages, nor was there any way those savages were going to
sit peacefully by while the white man came in upon them. There was no
way to make them like it, and the only way was to make them get used
to it, until the day should finally come when they have to silently,
inwardly admit that they like it, the TV and the white man's booze,
the guns and horses, the rock n' roll and country music, not to
mention the Snuggies and the toilet paper.
*********************************************************************8
There's no way to know where to begin to rebut this load of crap. "He who
has the power to take it, gets it"? If you believe that, then your outrage
is abysmal hypocrisy. There's no morality but victory and the only sin is
failure.
As for your description of Natives and their culture, I freakin' give up.
Your schools must use Aryan Nations pastors for teachers and comic books for
texts. No way on this green earth did you get that attitude from anything
like independant research or personal experience.
****************************************************************************
> If you were Palestinian, would you have the option of settling down, going
> back to your job and becoming a good Israeli citizen? Does the government
> allow that?
But of course! There are Israeli/Arab members of the Knesset for the
crissake. See? You got all this howling passion and yet you don't
know what the hell you're howling about. There is only two things that
account for support of the "Palestinian" cause and those are . . .
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So Ahmed, who lives in Gaza, just has to walk up to the Israeli soldiers at
the checkpoint, tell them he wants to live in Israel, get a job and be a
citizen, and gates will open. That what you're saying?
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1. Ignorance
2. Propaganda
Oh yes, and . . .
3. Naivety about the hard way things always have and always will be
found to work in this world.
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Thanks for that, I love irony.
********************************************************************
>
> -Jerusalem belongs to Israel, and May God order a ton of bat shit to
> -fall on the head of anybody stupid or crazy enough to suppose
> -otherwise.
> --
JM
http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 11:34 am
From: Just Me
On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481-bc68-1418d44842b5@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds
> > to
> > have full South African citizenship.
>
> Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
> before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> all over the land.
>
> =======
> Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
> while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
> niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy thawts
> 'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
> raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
> Loothur King"
>
> The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
> peace between your ears - where nothing happens.
Nothing, in the immediate case, which is the null quantity of truth
coming in at the ears from Mr. Food for Fishes here. And NOTHING could
be so false as this totally mendacious analogy to redneck claims of
goodness and peace in the status quo for the American Negro--except
you were able to prove that Martin Luther King, like Abbas, was a
Soviet trained, Marxist insurgent incendiary working under direction
and funding of the USSR.
It's a pity Mr. Sushi-Face here was born too late to get a spot on Hee-
Haw, where he'd be wearing his bib overalls trying to hawk a rickety
contraption of a poor excuse for a "Model T" analogy like that behind
the placard that always bore the Shade-Tree Used Analogy Lot phone
number, "BR-549". Yeah! "Come on Down, Y'all."
Nor will the typical Lib-Prog frog-croak ploy of trying to disparage
the intelligence and learning of the opposition work in this case, as
he confuses the Leftist agit-prop slander of disinformation he studies
for an "education", that it should be a source, as such, for the
arrogant misconception that he's the one that "knows". Which is always
so funny!
No, even in the opposition Lib-Prog press, from time to time, by some
fluke a kernel of truth like some volcanically unstoppable zit pops
out and explodes most embarrassingly to the face that suffers it, with
a juicy spurt of truth. In the current New Yorker is the Lawrence
Wright article on Gaza and the Goldstone Report, "Captives" in which
the following item of reportage appears . . .
'I began to see Gaza as, I suspect, many Gazans do: a floating island,
a dystopian Atlantis, drifting farther away from contact with any
other society. Omar Shaban told me that, twenty years ago, he could
easily drive to Tel Aviv for dinner, and more than a hundred thousand
Palestinians travelled into Israel every day for work. "The
Palestinian economy was structured to work with the Israeli economy,"
he said. "Most Palestinians knew Hebrew. There were real friendships."
Now, he said, "two-thirds of Gaza youth under thirty have never been
outside the Strip. How can they psychologically think of peace? You
can fight someone you don't know, but you can't make peace with him."'
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/09/091109fa_fact_wright
Indeed, how can they "psychologically think of peace" when the
conditions under which they live are entirely the creation of their
own bloody rampages, prejudice and crazed jihadist aims? And make no
mistake about it! Before comrade Abbas and his Soviet trained cadres
came into the land, "jihad" was just another musty old word in a dusty
unopened Koran. This is why I always refer to Jihadism as the "Undead
Agenda of Zombie Marxist Revolution" still live and kicking--from the
mass graves of its countless victims.
Tonight, God forbid I should actually find the time to waste, I will
utterly refute these Lib-Prog Zombie Pink claims that it was Israel
who fired the first shot in the Gaza Offensive. And as to the slander
about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
witness" testimony.
But just say that there is some truth to it? Okay, maybe that would go
to explain why there is no longer anything like the daily incidence of
rocket fire from Gaza as there used to be? So, like, "if it works,
don't fix it?"
"Strike another match, go start anew." -- Bob Dylan
Keep on blowing up Jewish babies in Israel and you just may get what
you been bargaining for--in spades turning up dirt over Arab babies on
your side, Killer Fish.
And though there is every blind eye for an eye to justify it, still,
in view of the constant stream of lies these Lib-Prog frogs are always
croaking, and seeing how Israel did everything they humanly could to
avoid civilian casualties, by storms of of leaflets in the air to cell
phone calls, until we see physical evidence of white phosphorus I am
inclined to take it for just another acid rain of the usual Black
Lies.
So do tell, Sushi for Brains, how long you been wearing those cute
little swastika adorned lace panties under your Chairman Mao pants?
--
JM
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/06/by-force-of-historical-necessity.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html
>
> > Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> > seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian
> > targets,
> > nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their
> > murdered
> > mothers.
>
> Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
> by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
> heads--and you know it, so why do you lie?
>
> ==============
> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza - an atrocity that tooks months
> of planning which was admitted by the Israelis themselves - which means they
> were planning teh attack while the ceasefire with Hamas still held. True to
> Israeli form, duplicitous, lying criminals.
>
> Why? What's in it for ya,
> Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
> "civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
> targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
> Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.
> ===============
>
> 1. ALL OF GAZA is a civilian target you muppet - it's the most densely
> populated strip of earth in the world
> 2. The use of white phosphorous in any civilian area - or indeed against
> enemy cmbatants - is outlawed under the Geneva Treaty and is consequently a
> war crime.
> 3. I'll give you more than one example of its war crime:
>
> 1.http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evi...-
> by Human Rights Watch
> "dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
> apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
> One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
> store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
> happen.
>
> " said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
> and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
> densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
> smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
> died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
> that, if you ask me.)
>
> 2.http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html- from The Christian
> Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
> supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
> "Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
> days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
> crowded refugee camp.
> Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
> Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
> illegal."
>
> IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense
> Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
> "The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
> permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"
>
> But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
> refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.
>
> "I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
> may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
> Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the population
> can't flee."
>
> 3.http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-whi...
> from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
> "The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
> effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
> according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
> fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
> "such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
> neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
> manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
> civilians, is a war crime," she said"
>
> 4.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-ci...
> - from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
> Fresh evidence of the firing of white phosphorus weapons by Israeli forces
> in Gaza has emerged from witnesses heard by the Guardian and first hand
> accounts by human rights groups of their use against civilians.
>
> Graphic descriptions of attacks by Israeli forces near the Gaza town of Khan
> Younis are contained in footage shot by Fida Qishta for the International
> Solidarity Movement and obtained by the Guardian.
>
> A woman described how on Tuesday Israeli forces "started to fire phosphorus
> bombs against the people, of course, they are civilians ..."
>
> A man added: "A fire broke out and we have to leave out. Fires broke out on
> the top of the houses. We all jumped out with our women and daughters put
> off the fire. They were doing that, to help the special forces to occupy the
> houses. after we put off the fires, they started to shoot towards us. Then
> they started to raze the houses".
>
> 5.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article544759...-
> Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells
>
> I could go on and on and on, but that's enough to prove you to be a liar as
> well as an idiot. Now go and wipe the spittle from your keyboard.
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 11:47 am
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx"
On Nov 11, 2:34 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481-bc68-1418d44842b5@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and coloureds
> > > to
> > > have full South African citizenship.
>
> > Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
> > before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> > radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> > in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> > stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> > all over the land.
>
> > =======
> > Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
> > while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
> > niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy thawts
> > 'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
> > raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
> > Loothur King"
>
> > The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
> > peace between your ears - where nothing happens.
>
> Nothing, in the immediate case, which is the null quantity of truth
> coming in at the ears from Mr. Food for Fishes here. And NOTHING could
> be so false as this totally mendacious analogy to redneck claims of
> goodness and peace in the status quo for the American Negro--except
> you were able to prove that Martin Luther King, like Abbas, was a
> Soviet trained, Marxist insurgent incendiary working under direction
> and funding of the USSR.
>
> It's a pity Mr. Sushi-Face here was born too late to get a spot on Hee-
> Haw, where he'd be wearing his bib overalls trying to hawk a rickety
> contraption of a poor excuse for a "Model T" analogy like that behind
> the placard that always bore the Shade-Tree Used Analogy Lot phone
> number, "BR-549". Yeah! "Come on Down, Y'all."
>
> Nor will the typical Lib-Prog frog-croak ploy of trying to disparage
> the intelligence and learning of the opposition work in this case, as
> he confuses the Leftist agit-prop slander of disinformation he studies
> for an "education", that it should be a source, as such, for the
> arrogant misconception that he's the one that "knows". Which is always
> so funny!
>
> No, even in the opposition Lib-Prog press, from time to time, by some
> fluke a kernel of truth like some volcanically unstoppable zit pops
> out and explodes most embarrassingly to the face that suffers it, with
> a juicy spurt of truth. In the current New Yorker is the Lawrence
> Wright article on Gaza and the Goldstone Report, "Captives" in which
> the following item of reportage appears . . .
>
> 'I began to see Gaza as, I suspect, many Gazans do: a floating island,
> a dystopian Atlantis, drifting farther away from contact with any
> other society. Omar Shaban told me that, twenty years ago, he could
> easily drive to Tel Aviv for dinner, and more than a hundred thousand
> Palestinians travelled into Israel every day for work. "The
> Palestinian economy was structured to work with the Israeli economy,"
> he said. "Most Palestinians knew Hebrew. There were real friendships."
> Now, he said, "two-thirds of Gaza youth under thirty have never been
> outside the Strip. How can they psychologically think of peace? You
> can fight someone you don't know, but you can't make peace with him."'
>
> http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/09/091109fa_fact_wright
>
> Indeed, how can they "psychologically think of peace" when the
> conditions under which they live are entirely the creation of their
> own bloody rampages, prejudice and crazed jihadist aims? And make no
> mistake about it! Before comrade Abbas and his Soviet trained cadres
> came into the land, "jihad" was just another musty old word in a dusty
> unopened Koran. This is why I always refer to Jihadism as the "Undead
> Agenda of Zombie Marxist Revolution" still live and kicking--from the
> mass graves of its countless victims.
>
> Tonight, God forbid I should actually find the time to waste, I will
> utterly refute these Lib-Prog Zombie Pink claims that it was Israel
> who fired the first shot in the Gaza Offensive. And as to the slander
> about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
> physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
> especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
> witness" testimony.
>
> But just say that there is some truth to it? Okay, maybe that would go
> to explain why there is no longer anything like the daily incidence of
> rocket fire from Gaza as there used to be? So, like, "if it works,
> don't fix it?"
>
> "Strike another match, go start anew." -- Bob Dylan
>
> Keep on blowing up Jewish babies in Israel and you just may get what
> you been bargaining for--in spades turning up dirt over Arab babies on
> your side, Killer Fish.
>
> And though there is every blind eye for an eye to justify it, still,
> in view of the constant stream of lies these Lib-Prog frogs are always
> croaking, and seeing how Israel did everything they humanly could to
> avoid civilian casualties, by storms of of leaflets in the air to cell
> phone calls, until we see physical evidence of white phosphorus I am
> inclined to take it for just another acid rain of the usual Black
> Lies.
>
> So do tell, Sushi for Brains, how long you been wearing those cute
> little swastika adorned lace panties under your Chairman Mao pants?
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.htmlhttp://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/06/by-force-of-historical-necessit...http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html
>
>
>
> > > Having said that, the Boers didn't murder children from airborne and
> > > seaborne weapons platforms or fire white phosphorous into civilian
> > > targets,
> > > nor allow infants to dehydrate to death beside the bodies of their
> > > murdered
> > > mothers.
>
> > Dead WRONG. It is nothing except the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas
> > by which they continually bring such calamity down upon their own
> > heads--and you know it, so why do you lie?
>
> > ==============
> > you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
> > were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza - an atrocity that tooks months
> > of planning which was admitted by the Israelis themselves - which means they
> > were planning teh attack while the ceasefire with Hamas still held. True to
> > Israeli form, duplicitous, lying criminals.
>
> > Why? What's in it for ya,
> > Fish Face? Name one instance where white phosphorus was fired into
> > "civilian targets" when rockets were not first being fired from those
> > targets. Name ONE, you lying, fish-smelling, stink pot brat from the
> > Noam Chomsky brainwash water soup.
> > ===============
>
> > 1. ALL OF GAZA is a civilian target you muppet - it's the most densely
> > populated strip of earth in the world
> > 2. The use of white phosphorous in any civilian area - or indeed against
> > enemy cmbatants - is outlawed under the Geneva Treaty and is consequently a
> > war crime.
> > 3. I'll give you more than one example of its war crime:
>
> > 1.http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evi...
> > by Human Rights Watch
> > "dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
> > apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
> > One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
> > store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
> > happen.
>
> > " said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
> > and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
> > densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer
> > smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and
> > died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name like
> > that, if you ask me.)
>
> > 2.http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html-from The Christian
> > Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
> > supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
> > "Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
> > days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
> > crowded refugee camp.
> > Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
> > Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
> > illegal."
>
> > IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense
> > Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
> > "The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
> > permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"
>
> > But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
> > refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.
>
> > "I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
> > may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
> > Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the population
> > can't flee."
>
> > 3.http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-whi...
> > from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
> > "The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
> > effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
> > according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
> > fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
> > "such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
> > neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
> > manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
> > civilians, is a war crime," she said"
>
> > 4.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-ci...
> > - from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
> > Fresh evidence
>
> ...
>
> read more »
http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 12:42 pm
From: Just Me
On Nov 11, 1:47 pm, "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx"
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> http://unrepentantoldhippie.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/wingnuts3.jpg
I really don't think you have any of those to spare, Koolchicki. Best
you should screw them back in before your brains fall out. Or right! I
see, yeah, they already did and that's why you got those all in a pile
to show off on the Internet like that? Very impressive.
But, if that's the best you can do by way of trying to refute an
argument, cool. It's both easy and cheap--not to mention greasy. All
of 50 cents at Lowe's, maybe?
--
JM
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2008/06/by-force-of-historical-necessity.html
http://whosenose.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 3:31 pm
From: "Fish Supper"
"Just Me" <jpdm45@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:70cbc250-a07c-4dab-921f-0dc9c1bb8647@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> "Just Me" <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3af9fe0b-ffaf-4481-bc68-1418d44842b5@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 8:10 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > In the same way the Apartheid South Africans allowed blacks and
> > coloureds
> > to
> > have full South African citizenship.
>
> Total, rank, stinking to high heaven slander. In an era of peace,
> before the Arab population of Israel got all stirred up and
> radicalized by likes of Abbas coming back into the land with his PhD
> in a Marxist "education" from a Soviet university, and the funds to
> stir up jihad, Arabs lived and worked and voted side by side with Jews
> all over the land.
>
> =======
> Is it just me or can anyone else hear banjos plucking in the background,
> while Jimmy Just Me Redneck here says: "we ain't hayd no trubble wit' our
> niggers 'til thayt Martain Loothur King caym here wit' awl his fancy
> thawts
> 'bout freedom fur niggers n' stuff an' how they shud get a vote and human
> raiyts. Them niggers wuz happy ti they gets all stirred up by the likes a'
> Loothur King"
>
> The only peace that has ever existed in occupied palestine is the serene
> peace between your ears - where nothing happens.
And as to the slander
about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
witness" testimony.
=========
You are utterly insane.
Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
yourself.
You are a charicatur of the type of rabid zionist fanatic the caues the rest
of the civilised world to detest Israel.
Get help
> 1.http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evi...-
> by Human Rights Watch
> "dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets,
> apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. "
> One of the big Israeli lies was the claim that Hamas used UN schools to
> store and fire weapons. The UN stated categorically that this did not
> happen.
>
> " said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch
> and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over
> densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and
> safer
> smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered
> and
> died." (Abrahams? hmmm sounds like a lying Muslim extremist with a name
> like
> that, if you ask me.)
>
> 2.http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0114/p07s01-wome.html- from The Christian
> Science Monitor, that mouthpiece of left-wing socialist extremism and
> supporter of islamic fundamentalism all over the world - not.
> "Marc Garlasco has been on the northern border of Gaza for the past five
> days watching what he says are white phosphorus munitions exploding over a
> crowded refugee camp.
> Mr. Garlasco, a senior military analyst for New York-based Human Rights
> Watch (HRW), says that the way Israel is using the incendiary device is
> illegal."
>
> IDF Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi told Israel's Foreign Affairs and
> Defense
> Committee on Tuesday in response to a query.
> "The IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] acts only in accordance with what is
> permitted by international law and does not use white phosphorus,"
>
> But Garlasco says that phosphorus is clearly being used in the Jabaliya
> refugee camp, one of the most crowded areas in Gaza.
>
> "I can see them; we are very certain, whatever the Israeli Defense Forces
> may say, that white phosphorus is being used. It was used by Israel in
> Lebanon in 2006, but not until the population fled. In Gaza, the
> population
> can't flee."
>
> 3.http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/news/israeli-armys-use-whi...
> from those inveterate liars at Amnesty International:
> "The Israeli army used white phosphorus, a weapon with a highly incendiary
> effect, in densely populated civilian residential areas of Gaza City,
> according to indisputable evidence found an Amnesty International
> fact-finding team which reached the area last Saturday."
> "such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza's densely populated residential
> neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. "Its repeated use in this
> manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on
> civilians, is a war crime," she said"
>
> 4.http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/israel-gaza-phosphorus-ci...
> - from one of the world's most respected independent newspapers:
> Fresh evidence of the firing of white phosphorus weapons by Israeli forces
> in Gaza has emerged from witnesses heard by the Guardian and first hand
> accounts by human rights groups of their use against civilians.
>
> Graphic descriptions of attacks by Israeli forces near the Gaza town of
> Khan
> Younis are contained in footage shot by Fida Qishta for the International
> Solidarity Movement and obtained by the Guardian.
>
> A woman described how on Tuesday Israeli forces "started to fire
> phosphorus
> bombs against the people, of course, they are civilians ..."
>
> A man added: "A fire broke out and we have to leave out. Fires broke out
> on
> the top of the houses. We all jumped out with our women and daughters put
> off the fire. They were doing that, to help the special forces to occupy
> the
> houses. after we put off the fires, they started to shoot towards us. Then
> they started to raze the houses".
>
> 5.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article544759...-
> Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells
>
> I could go on and on and on, but that's enough to prove you to be a liar
> as
> well as an idiot. Now go and wipe the spittle from your keyboard.
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 5:08 pm
From: Just Me
On Nov 11, 5:31 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> And as to the slander
> about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
> physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
> especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
> witness" testimony.
>
> =========
>
> You are utterly insane.
Heh. That's what I call a well-reasoned argument, Mako-Face. Just
scream the first imprecation that comes to mind. That ought to work,
where intelligence, fact and logic fail.
>
> Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> yourself.
>
> You are a charicatur of the type of rabid zionist fanatic the caues the rest
> of the civilised world to detest Israel.
>
> Get help
Help! I neeeeed somebody,
Help! Not just anybody,
Help! I neeeed someone,
Heeeeelp ME!
The common understanding of what's "insane" is where you won't accept
the reality of what's before you, so you sort of go around snipping
everything until you're the only one talking, or screaming more like--
to yourself . . .
> Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> yourself.
There you go again editing, cropping and snipping your reality as
suits your slippery, slimy fish-eye view, so that you can reply to
something entirely other than what was at point. But I won't be
aggravated into repeating myself just to suit your tricks. There are
documented cases on record of journalists doctoring photographs,
adding all kind of smoke where there was little, to prove the
"enormity" of some event. Anybody can plant a shell casing containing
traces of whatever the fuck it is you want it to be. And the hearsay
testimony of all those Lib-Prog organizations of bleeding Red hearts
("Cross" or otherwise) isn't worth spit in a court of law. But didn't
I hold open the outside possibility that maybe my skepticism is not
justified? Yes I did. Go back and for once reply to what is really
being said, not to what you want to doctor as fake "evidence" from it.
Now go sleep with Luca Brasi and be food for the fishes, Mr. "Fish
Dinner".
Ha-haaaaaaaaa! "Fish Dinner".
If it fits, wear it!
If it works, don't fish it!
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:06 pm
From: "Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx"
On Nov 11, 8:08 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 5:31 pm, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
>
> > And as to the slander
> > about white phosphorus? There remains so far as I've seen, NO
> > physical evidence to support that claim, vis a vis Gaza most
> > especially, but only line upon line of hearsay, so-called "eye-
> > witness" testimony.
>
> > =========
>
> > You are utterly insane.
>
> Heh. That's what I call a well-reasoned argument, Mako-Face. Just
> scream the first imprecation that comes to mind. That ought to work,
> where intelligence, fact and logic fail.
>
>
>
> > Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> > too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> > pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> > workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> > phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> > not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> > fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> > yourself.
>
> > You are a charicatur of the type of rabid zionist fanatic the caues the rest
> > of the civilised world to detest Israel.
>
> > Get help
>
> Help! I neeeeed somebody,
> Help! Not just anybody,
> Help! I neeeed someone,
> Heeeeelp ME!
>
> The common understanding of what's "insane" is where you won't accept
> the reality of what's before you, so you sort of go around snipping
> everything until you're the only one talking, or screaming more like--
> to yourself . . .
>
> > Amnesty International, the Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and eye-witnesses
> > too many to count, photographic evidence, video evidence, live televison
> > pictures of the phosphorous being used, reports from journalists, aid
> > workers, foreign doctors and even remains of the shells which carried the
> > phosphorous, all go to PROVE israeli use of white phosphorous - but that's
> > not enough evidence for you. You're hunkered down in the corner with your
> > fingers stuck firmly in your ears repeating no, no, no over and over to
> > yourself.
>
> There you go again editing, cropping and snipping your reality as
> suits your slippery, slimy fish-eye view, so that you can reply to
> something entirely other than what was at point. But I won't be
> aggravated into repeating myself just to suit your tricks. There are
> documented cases on record of journalists doctoring photographs,
> adding all kind of smoke where there was little, to prove the
> "enormity" of some event. Anybody can plant a shell casing containing
> traces of whatever the fuck it is you want it to be. And the hearsay
> testimony of all those Lib-Prog organizations of bleeding Red hearts
> ("Cross" or otherwise) isn't worth spit in a court of law. But didn't
> I hold open the outside possibility that maybe my skepticism is not
> justified? Yes I did. Go back and for once reply to what is really
> being said, not to what you want to doctor as fake "evidence" from it.
>
> Now go sleep with Luca Brasi and be food for the fishes, Mr. "Fish
> Dinner".
>
> Ha-haaaaaaaaa! "Fish Dinner".
>
> If it fits, wear it!
>
> If it works, don't fish it!
> --
> JMhttp://whosenose.blogspot.comhttp://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 9:18 pm
From: Just Me
Observe! It is the same source, the same blowfish lips burbling of
Israeli "white phosphorus" bombs as the slimy thing sits there bottom-
feeding before God and everybody trying to put this one over . . .
On Nov 11, 6:56 am, "Fish Supper" <l...@sea.com> wrote:
> ==============
> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza.
See that? Now see this . . .
"Since 2000, 19 people have been killed by Palestinian terrorist-
launched rocket fire and another 18 were killed by mortar fire."
-- http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/Gazaincursion.html
Won't stoop to take the Jew's word for it, there, Barracuda Brains?
Then have yourself a Google on the terms [israelis killed rockets] --
here's what you get . . .
"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,480,000 for Israelis killed rockets. (0.32
seconds)"
-- http://tinyurl.com/yexqknx
Still not good enough for ya? Click that Wiki link and have a little
sprinkle of this in your tank, Guppy-Face . . .
September 24, 2004
Settler Tiferet Tratner, 24, of Neve Dekalim, was killed in her home
by a mortar (weapon) attack on the Gush Katif settlement bloc built in
Gaza[4]
September 29, 2004
On the eve of the Sukkot holiday, Yuval Abebeh, 4, and Dorit Benisian,
2, were killed by a Qassam rocket (one of three) fired from Gaza into
Sderot. About 30 people were wounded in the attack, for which Hamas
claimed responsibility.
October 28, 2004
Israeli army Sgt. Michael Chizik, 21, of Tiberias, was killed when a
mortar shell landed in the settlement of Morag in the Gaza Strip.[4]
January 5, 2005
Nissim Arbiv, 26, of Nissanit, was severely injured by a mortar shell
in the Erez industrial zone. He died from his injuries ten days later.
[4]
January 15, 2005
A Qassam rocket attack on Sderot left Ayala Abukasis, 17, brain dead.
She died on January 21.
February 9, 2005
A barrage of 25 to 50 Qassam rockets and mortar shells hit Neve
Dekalim settlement, and another barrage hit at noon. Hamas said it was
in retaliation for an attack in which one Palestinian was killed near
an Israeli settlement.[5]
June 7, 2005
Two Palestinian workers, Salah Ayash Imran, 57, Muhammed Mahmoud
Jaroun, and a foreign worker Bi Shude, 46, were killed, and five other
workers were wounded, when a Qassam rocket hit a packing shed in Ganei
Tal, in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for
the attack.[6]
July 14, 2005
Dana Galkowicz, 22, was killed in a Qassam attack in the Kibbutz Netiv
Ha'asara, just north of the Gaza Strip. Hamas, Islamic Jihad Movement
in Palestine and Fatah all claimed responsibility for the attack.[7]
September 24, 2005
Five Israelis were injured when Palestinian militants launched about
30 rockets on Israeli communities from the Gaza Strip. This attack
followed an incident the previous day, in which 20 Palestinians,
including 16 civilians, were killed when a vehicle carrying Qassam
rockets exploded during a Hamas rally in Jabalya. The exact
circumstances surrounding the incident are still unknown. To date, no
evidence has been found to substantiate Hamas' claim that Israeli
interference was responsible for the accident.[8]
--
Now this is the same so-called "human" handful of Lib-Prog slime that
expects to be taken at his word when he say . . .
> you're a fool. Not one single Israeli has been killed by the rockets which
> were used as a pretext the atrocity on Gaza.
Yeah, we see who's the "fool" alright. Now just watch as in typical
style he tries to slip out of the grip of truth to say that he only
meant to speak of rocket killed Israelis in the days directly
preceding the launch of Operation Cast Lead? Think we'll get to see a
fish dance like that? As if the first rocket-killed Israeli, 28 June
2004 was not provocation enough to level the entire Gaza Strip to dust
and blood and fish guts, thus to be done with the messy business for
once and for all?
And why, why, why? Wouldn't you ask, doesn't the IDF just get busy and
do that? Because they are the IDF and not Hamas. They are Israelis and
not "Palestinians". They are Jews not Muslims. The are civilized
people, not savages.
> an atrocity that tooks months
In the sight of such a one, any attempt by an Israeli (read "Jew") at
self-defense is "an atrocity".
It is fine for the Palestinian to defend himself by randomly rocketing
defenseless Jewish children, but not for the Jew, no matter the
lengths the IDF will go to target only the adult male killers they are
after. No right of self-defense should be seen as appropriate to the
Jew. Now that's the way Mr. Fishguts for a brain looks at it. And
there's something in the soul of a civilized man that gets just blind
pissed to think of anything so cold-blooded and strictly from the
heart of a fish, as that.
But does he not call himself "Fish Dinner"?
He knows what he's good for, if only unconsciously. It is at the
outlet of the sewers where the fish grow fattest on their "Fish
Dinner".
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
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TOPIC: Franz Neumann on Carl Schmitt
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/448beaac281290a1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:01 am
From: The Other
So, anyway, Schmitt (a) was a member of the Nazi Party who (b) never
believed in what we today would call Nazism, but (c) nevertheless gave
some legal support to Nazi policies, yet (d) wrote some things in 1938
that could reasonable be read as anti-Nazi. Neumann seems to
emphasize (a) and (c) while ignoring (b) and (d).
Also, in case anyone's reading this and might be misled by your talk
of the Nuremberg Tribunal, remember that he was never charged with
anything. After interrogating him the American investigators finally
declared that there was "nothing to de-Nazify" in his case.
Some of his biographers "excuse" his Nazi membership by saying that he
was anti-Nazi before 1933 and his joining the Nazi Party was purely
opportunistic. Other people (not biographers, as far as I know) say
that we really was a Nazi through and through. I think the truth is
in the middle, close to Schmitt's own account. I think he really did
believe he could influence the direction of Germany between 1933-36,
based on what he interpreted as basically an invitation to do so in
1933. He said that before he was denounced by the SS in 1936, he
thought he could "give meaning to catchwords". I'm sure there was
plenty of opportunism, but he also saw the Nazis in 1933 as at least
amenable to influence. I wonder if those who describe his decision as
opportunist could imagine his opportunistically joining the Communist
Party if they had won. I sure can't imagine that.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:02 am
From: "Marko Amnell"
"Patok" <crazy.div.patok@gmail.com> wrote in message
hddlvv$pp2$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Marko Amnell wrote:
>>
>> Carl Schmitt
>> http://www.ppl.nl/100years/images/schmitt.jpg
>> There is an odd bump on the left side of his
>> forehead. It's there in other photographs too:
>> http://ls.berkeley.edu/art-hum/framing/vol4/Schmitt%20mid%201933.jpg
>> http://www.politics.fudan.edu.cn/picture/1294.jpg
>> I wonder what it might be.
>
> The pictures are not really clear enough to tell, but it might be a
> lipoma: http://dermnetnz.org/lesions/lipoma.html
> I have it in the family (I have too), and that's what it looks like.
> True, ours are more pronounced (smaller area for the same elevation),
> while his looks more like the result of a bump on the head, but judging as
> he has it in many photos, that's most likely it.
What a relief! I was afraid it might have been a bump he
got on the head when Franz Neumann hit him over the head
with a copy of _Behemoth_, or more ominously, the
Jew-Eating-Monster-He-Really-Is struggling to get out
through his cranium.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 6:04 am
From: The Other
"Marko Amnell" <marko.amnell@kolumbus.fi> writes:
> Images of some of the authors in this thread...
Maistre looks the coolest. He wins the Miss Right-Wing Thinker
contest hands-down, if you ask me. He looks the same as he writes.
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TOPIC: Hannah Arendt's Wrinkled Cunt Rides Again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/165ed1cfe37f2566?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 12:27 pm
From: Just Me
How's this for a show of optimism, eh? I duly repost these comments
on the slim to nothing chance that maybe by now (present boring
coterie of total squares excluded), some rare to be found soul has
come in to sit down and raise his cup, who would be hip to what's so
hilarious about all this . . .
On Nov 3, 3:37 am, Michael Zeleny <larva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howard M. Kaminsky writes in a letter to the TLS regarding
> Bernard Wasserstein's Commentary on Hannah Arendt:
> As for his charges relating to Arendt's use of Nazi authors and her
> inadequate love of the Jewish people, I admit, Jew that I am, to
> believing that some Nazi authors had important things to say not
> unrelated to their Nazism, above all the viciously anti-Semitic but
> incomparably brilliant Carl Schmitt (whom Arendt used even more than
> she says) . . .
And just think of the way she used Heidegger, and of the way
Heidegger
used her, and of the way Heidegger used other Jews.
From http://www.friesian.com/rockmore.htm . . .
"In recent years he [Martin Heidegger] has allowed his anti-Semitism
to come increasingly to the fore, even in his dealings with his
groups
of devoted Jewish students. The events of the last few weeks have
struck at the deepest roots of my existence."
--Edmund Husserl (1859–1938), 4 May 1933, after Heidegger, as Rector
of Freiberg University, had revoked Husserl's access to the
University
Library.
--
Ah, the phenomenological nobility of it all!
But wouldn't you have to suppose it wasn't so old and wrinkled as all
that, back in the day of those hot times with Heidegger--indeed I'd
say she looked pretty sweet at the time, and sure did have a sexy way
of holding that cigarette . . .
http://www.librislondon.co.uk/images/hannah_arendt_portrait_300.jpg
Still you got to wonder, after a look of this shot of Heidegger also
from those years . . .
http://www.friesian.com/images/heideger.jpg
. . . whether she got a hot, sexy kick out of the tickle from that
funny little mustache? Was this cause for it to ecstatically open its
dewy lips and scream, "Heil Hitler!" For which cause it would right
then have shriveled no doubt, to become wrinkled for life, even at
such a ripe, young and nubile age.
--
JM http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 8:24 pm
From: Stratum101
On Nov 11, 2:27 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How's this for a show of optimism, eh? I duly repost these comments
> on the slim to nothing chance that maybe by now (present boring
> coterie of total squares excluded), some rare to be found soul has
> come in to sit down and raise his cup, who would be hip to what's so
> hilarious about all this . . .
>
> On Nov 3, 3:37 am, Michael Zeleny <larva...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Howard M. Kaminsky writes in a letter to the TLS regarding
> > Bernard Wasserstein's Commentary on Hannah Arendt:
> > As for his charges relating to Arendt's use of Nazi authors and her
> > inadequate love of the Jewish people, I admit, Jew that I am, to
> > believing that some Nazi authors had important things to say not
> > unrelated to their Nazism, above all the viciously anti-Semitic but
> > incomparably brilliant Carl Schmitt (whom Arendt used even more than
> > she says) . . .
>
> And just think of the way she used Heidegger, and of the way
> Heidegger
> used her, and of the way Heidegger used other Jews.
Yes, but Zeleny, tragic character that he is with an
imperfect command of English, apparently meant to
write "...had important things to say *not related* to
their Nazi[i]sm...", the opposite of his clumsy double
negative. I don't disagree with him. Intellectuals
who bought into the Third Reich were consumed
by their Naziism.
[...]
> But wouldn't you have to suppose it wasn't so old and wrinkled as all
> that, back in the day of those hot times with Heidegger--indeed I'd
> say she looked pretty sweet at the time, and sure did have a sexy way
> of holding that cigarette . . .
>
> http://www.librislondon.co.uk/images/hannah_arendt_portrait_300.jpg
A semiotician will say the cigarette and her finger look
like a two middle-finger gesture even if this wasn't her intent.
But no thinking Jew in Hitler's Germany failed to comprehend
her status in contemporary society.
After the war, Elizabeth Schwartzkopf, a party member, was a
controversial figure among music lovers. I adore her. (I tolerate
Wagner.) I'm less forgiving of Werner von Braun.
Here's Schwartzkopf singing "Meine Lippen, sie küssen
so heiss":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAI12axZL5k&feature=related
Here's Hilde Guedin singing the same piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWI2QeBhnbY&feature=related
She claimed some Jewish ancestry, enough to have put her at risk
with the Nazis.
If the piece sounds even a little familiar, you may recall a short
clip of it played on a piano at a party attended by Oskar
Schindler in "Schindler's List". It comes from Franz
Lehar's operetta "Giuditta". And shame on you for any
fondness for a composer whom Hitler dug! Bad
enough they had to sweep Lehar's Jewish wife
under the carpet.
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TOPIC: My good old aggregator
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/296f6e64d03c91a4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 11 2009 9:27 pm
From: Stratum101
News aggregators have it easy these
days. They subscribe to a few RSS
feeds, or a few thousand, and let 'er
rip and give the appearance of doing
all the work. Google does it. Arts &
Letters Daily does it. Even educated
fleas do it!
Here's one of A&LD's New Books entries
from Monday, a piece on the Wikipedia:
http://bostonreview.net/BR34.6/morozov.php
(The book under discussion is:
_The Wikipedia Revolution: How a Bunch of
Nobodies Created the World's Greatest Encyclopedia_
But as will be made clear, they were
no nobodies.)
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