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* Big Trouble for Bibi - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Really good trash - 2 messages, 1 author
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* The Monsters and the Critics - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Big Trouble for Bibi
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/c210bd54e82eb9da?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 6:46 pm
From: "Fish Supper"
"Koolchicki@smurfsareus.xxx" <john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:51b8c813-7746-4004-b6f7-bca0e929b09c@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 12, 8:14 pm, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 6:47 pm, "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx"
>
> <john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > To have to bare you and then have to bare . . .
>
> You figure you got the right "bare" there, K00KChik? Best you should
> check that out before you em-bear-ass yourself further. As a person's
> command of spelling is a direct reflection of how much time he spends
> with books, then surely this will result in his getting more things
> than just spelling wrong. Just so, your utterly ignorant position on
> Israel loudly proclaims it: you don't know the first part of what
> you're always barking about, any more than you know that a mother
> *bears* a child, not "bares" it, unless she's changing its diapers.
> All you know is what comes into your ears and eyes from ignoramuses
> just like you in the tv press, a good many of whom probably can't
> spell either.
>
> Swell of you to come in here today bearing the truth about the kind of
> bare-ass dummy in diapters it takes to swallow a lot of LibProg
> agitprop disinformation about Israel and Palestine, and take the sort
> of position you take. Finally! K00Kchiki BARES ALL.
>
> Fucking dimwits on wheels.
> --
> JMhttp://jpdavid.blogspot.com/http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.comhttp://vignettes-mackie.blogspot.com/
Well if that's the case, I suppose the criteria is that way because
only your mother would know who really was your father.
I've never said Jews were stupid.
Your poor mother.
To have to bear you and then have to bear the guilt that you've heaped
upon her for not making you a Jew.
****
I have no sympathy for the woman - she had the chance to stay in Scotland
and produce a decent human being. Instead, she blew it, and look what we've
been left with. I feel kinda sorry for JM; he's a twat of limited
intelligence and no humanity - but his mother had the chance that her
birthright gave her and should have known better.
Hell mend her and God forgive her for what she's left us with.
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TOPIC: Really good trash
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/5b9979a004e3f392?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 3:53 am
From: Stratum101
The Chron (_San Francisco Chronicle_) reviews "2012" the film:
"Only an audience that feels invulnerable can enjoy watching on
screen
the wholesale destruction of its civilization and not take it as a
threat.
A cloud has lifted. It's safe to be happy and brainless again.
'2012' may be Hollywood's first post-post-9/11 movie."
See SFGate at
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/13/MV161AICV3.DTL
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 6:31 am
From: Stratum101
On Nov 13, 5:53 am, Stratum101 <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
> The Chron (_San Francisco Chronicle_) reviews "2012" the film:
>
> "Only an audience that feels invulnerable can enjoy watching on
> screen the wholesale destruction of its civilization and not take
> it as a threat. A cloud has lifted. It's safe to be happy and
> brainless again. '2012' may be Hollywood's first
> post-post-9/11 movie."
>
> See SFGate athttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/13/MV161AICV...
In ultra-hip Dallas where to be campy is to be a suspected
Left Coast com'nist or at least unpatriotic, this film
gets a 3-star (out of 5) rating. Don't see why
the Dallasites are complaining. Los Angeles is
everybody's most nukable city.
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TOPIC: The Monsters and the Critics
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/37d82f48cdab306a?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 7:14 pm
From: "Arindam Banerjee"
"Marko Amnell" <marko.amnell@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
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> The subject line refers to Tolkien's well-known essay. I think I've
> mentioned my favourite quote from "The Monsters and the Critics" in r.a.b.
> already; I think it was in some debate with Mike Morris. Here it is again:
>
> "[Courage] is the great contribution of early Northern literature. This is
> not a military judgment. I am not asserting that, if the Trojans could
> have employed a Northern king and his companions, they would have driven
> Agammemnon and Achilles into the sea . . . . I refer rather to the central
> position the creed of unyielding will holds in the North. We due reserve
> we may turn to the tradition of pagan imagination as it survived in
> Icelandic. Of English pre-Christian mythology we know practically nothing.
> But the fundamentally similar heroic temper of ancient England and
> Scandinavia cannot have been founded on . . . mythologies divergent on
> this essential point. 'The Northern Gods,' [W.P.] Ker said, 'have an
> exultant extravagance in their warfare which makes them more like Titans
> than Olympians; only they are on the right side, only it is not the side
> that wins. The winning side is Chaos and Unreason'-mythologically, the
> monsters-'but the gods, who are defeated, think that defeat no
> refutation.' And in their war men are their chosen allies, able when
> heroic to share in this 'absolute resistance, perfect because without
> hope.'
>
> I think that is an insightful observation about the fearless Viking ethos,
> and I agree with Tolkien that the critics make a mistake in ignoring
> monsters. I'm not sure Tolkien's observations are directly relevant to the
> latest crop of monsters in popular culture. I saw the film "Zombieland"
> and while the cameo by Bill Murray was hilarious, otherwise watching the
> movie mainly reminded me forcefully that I am no longer in my twenties.
> I'm sure I would have enjoyed the movie 15 or 20 years ago.
>
> There is an article about the current monster fad in popular culture in
> The Chronicle of Higher Education.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> October 25, 2009
>
> Monsters and the Moral Imagination
>
> By Stephen T. Asma
>
>
>
> Monsters are on the rise. People can't seem to get enough of vampires
> lately, and zombies have a new lease on life. This year and next we have
> the release of the usual horror films like Saw VI and Halloween II; the
> campy mayhem of Zombieland; more-pensive forays like 9 (produced by Tim
> Burton and Timur Bekmambetov), The Wolfman, and The Twilight Saga: New
> Moon; and, more playfully, Where the Wild Things Are (a Dave Eggers
> rewrite of the Maurice Sendak classic).
>
> The reasons for this increased monster culture are hard to pin down. Maybe
> it's social anxiety in the post-9/11 decade, or the conflict in Iraq-some
> think there's an uptick in such fare during wartime. Perhaps it's the
> economic downturn. The monster proliferation can be explained, in part, by
> exploring the meaning of monsters. Popular culture is re-enchanted with
> meaningful monsters, and even the eggheads are stroking their chins-last
> month saw the seventh global conference on Monsters and the Monstrous at
> the University of Oxford.
>
> http://chronicle.com/article/Monstersthe-Moral/48886/
I was given the encyclopaedia "Pictorial Knowledge" when I was a small boy,
and that was perhaps the best gift my parents gave me.
In those volumes there was a section of Norse mythology, which made a
profound impression upon me. Classical information only grows better upon
one with passage of time, and aquisition of experience. Those tales are the
greatest gift to us from antiquity, as they have the quality of
timelessness, and they relate to each of us, although in different ways.
When I think of Norse monsters, I do not think of them as chaos and
unreason, but as examples of cunning and deceit, great intelligence and
superficial wit, an appearance of enormous latent power but also a saving
streak of honesty. As opposed to them, Thor and his god-mates are like
village bumpkins, simple-minded and naive. They feel they have no chance
against the enemy, but the enemy's main skill is to make the gods
underestimate their own strengths.
I am sure you must have read of Thor's adventures in GiantLand, Marko. If
you have not give a yip and I will post a summary. Those adventures are the
most meaningful, to me.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee.
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