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* The fall of a scientist - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/a64f8c335cf4308b?hl=en
* Hannah Arendt's Wrinkled Cunt Rides Again - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/165ed1cfe37f2566?hl=en
* Gals Best or Boys - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/310ceed185df7378?hl=en
* The world's largest book - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/d85f9c82d2e93ca4?hl=en
* Excuse me!! Would you stop for a moment?! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/1883643d6eb19417?hl=en

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TOPIC: The fall of a scientist
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/a64f8c335cf4308b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 14 2009 7:59 pm
From: "Marko Amnell"

"Stratum101" <j.collier@cross-comp.com> wrote in message
6e648187-d7d3-4270-b462-46c6498f42b8@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> Apparently, peer review helped him perpertuate his
> misdeeds for awhile rather than preventing them. He
> would be asked challenging questions which he used
> as hints to what he had to demonstrate. Further, once
> he had published a few papers, his new pieces were
> eagerly awaited.
>
> In a sense, Jan Hendrik Schön is a genius, but
> not that kind exactly.

I know the story, and I saw the piece linked to in
Arts & Letters Daily.

An interesting contrast is the story of Grigory
Perelman, an actual genius who proved the
Poincaré Conjecture, but never bothered to
publish his proof in any journal, peer reviewed
or not. He was satisfied with having communicated
his proof in three preprints posted to the arXiv
electronic preprint archive in 2002 and 2003.
He also, famously, turned down the Fields Medal.
But he may win the $1 million Millennium Prize:

"Perelman may also be due to receive a share
(or the totality) of a Millennium Prize. The rules
for this prize-which can be changed, as stated
by a member of the advisory board of the Clay
Mathematics Institute-require his proof to be
published in a peer-reviewed mathematics journal.
While Perelman has not pursued publication himself,
other mathematicians have published papers about
the proof. This may make Perelman eligible to
receive a share or the whole of a prize. Perelman
has stated that 'I'm not going to decide whether to
accept the prize until it is offered.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman

I just ordered a new book about him, _Perfect Rigor:
A Genius and the Mathematical Breakthrough of
the Century_ by Masha Gessen. The best technical
introduction to the proof is the book-length article
"Ricci Flow and the Poincaré Conjecture"
by John Morgan and Gang Tian, which you can get
from the arXiv http://arxiv.org/abs/math.DG/0607607
Just reading the first few pages of this article
gives some idea of Perelman's proof.

There is also a more popular book by Donal O'Shea
entitled _The Poincaré Conjecture_ which was
published in 2007 and carries the grandiose subtitle
"In Search of the Shape of the Universe." It's a
free ebook, which you can download as a torrent,
for example from http://tinyurl.com/yecea8h


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TOPIC: Hannah Arendt's Wrinkled Cunt Rides Again
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/165ed1cfe37f2566?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:46 am
From: RoverII@webtv.net

"If the claim is that ethnic descent or religious confession are somehow
unlike biological sex and personal identity in their moral implications,
why is that the case, and how so? "

______________________________________

To elevate ethnic descent or group religious confession above the
so-called "inalienable rights" creates a form of cultism that ultimately
clashes with objective reality. Human material progress in the West in
the last 500 years was made possible to the degree that the old
tribal/ethnic/religious structures were minimized or even deconstructed.
Globalization is the last expression of that earlier European and then
American (and now Chinese?) movement. In this sense, Zionism and
Medieval Islam are still "in the way" and must be tamed to the same
level that Irish tribalism has been diminished to the annual celebration
of St. Patrick's Day and the Catholic Church has been contained inside
the 60 acre enclave known as the Vatican, a "Museum State".

As an aside, while reading Arendt's "Banality of Evil" years ago I
recall thinking how far off the mark she was in her conclusions about
the Nazi monsters. Perhaps she got everything backwards in her head?

Roverii

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:50 am
From: "Marko Amnell"

<RoverII@webtv.net> wrote in message
6395-4B00063B-2380@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
>
> "If the claim is that ethnic descent or religious confession are somehow
> unlike biological sex and personal identity in their moral implications,
> why is that the case, and how so? "
>
> ______________________________________
>
> To elevate ethnic descent or group religious confession above the
> so-called "inalienable rights" creates a form of cultism that ultimately
> clashes with objective reality. Human material progress in the West in
> the last 500 years was made possible to the degree that the old
> tribal/ethnic/religious structures were minimized or even deconstructed.

What about the huge contribution to the material progress of
the West made by black slavery? It was certainly based on
ethnic distinctions. Some writers have argued that black racism
is in fact a new phenomenon that only occurred during the last
500 years. Samir Amin makes this claim in his book _Eurocentrism_.
I think he ignores the Arab black slave trade, with predated the
European black slave trade.

> Globalization is the last expression of that earlier European and then
> American (and now Chinese?) movement. In this sense, Zionism and
> Medieval Islam are still "in the way" and must be tamed to the same
> level that Irish tribalism has been diminished to the annual celebration
> of St. Patrick's Day and the Catholic Church has been contained inside
> the 60 acre enclave known as the Vatican, a "Museum State".

I agree with your basic argument, but you ignore the arguments
made by social scientists such as Benedict Anderson and
Ernest Gellner that what has happened over the last 200 years
with the rise of ethnic and linguistic nationalism is that to some
extent membership in the imagined communities of the great
world religions has been replaced with membership in the
communities of the nation-states. So as the strength of group
religious confession declines, the strength of nationalism grows.
Bloodless universalism is not very popular. It is naïve to think
that nationalism is weakening. The wars in the former Yugoslavia
in 1992-1995, and more recently, the Russian invasion of
Georgia, are examples how ethnic nationalism still leads to
violent conflict.

> As an aside, while reading Arendt's "Banality of Evil" years ago I
> recall thinking how far off the mark she was in her conclusions about
> the Nazi monsters. Perhaps she got everything backwards in her head?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:00 am
From: Stratum101


On Nov 15, 7:46 am, Rove...@webtv.net wrote:


> [à bas avec le tribalisme]

...

> and the Catholic Church has been contained inside
> the 60 acre enclave known as the Vatican, a "Museum State".

After reading Malachi Martin's "Vatican novel" _Windswept
House_, which accomplishes for the Vatican what
Don Novello accomplished for Lazlo Toth, how can
I be sure of this? Didn't you see Godfaddah 3?


> As an aside, while reading Arendt's "Banality of Evil"
> years ago I recall thinking how far off the mark she
> was in her conclusions about the Nazi monsters.
> Perhaps she got everything backwards in her head?

*She* was driven from Germany, not you,
I presume. (And I too would have been, or
worse, if I lived then and there.) You're saying she
wasn't sufficiently angry? You'll recall Eichmann was
unceremoniously hanged in the end to her enthusiastic
approval. She wasn't one these closet antisemites
including self-hating Jews who claimed that Israel's
"extradition" of Eichmann from Argentina was illegal.

Really, what arouses people who hate Arendt is that
Germany wasn't pastoralized after the war. But one
only has to see how well that worked following
1914-1918. For crissakes, she was a German, too.

How angry is a contemporary American toward his
own country following eight years of George Bush who
was capable of committing atrocities in Iraq
on a scale approaching that of Third Reich
Germany... beginning with an election where
his victory was probably rigged?

I'm pretty pissed. Should I emigrate?
We'll leave that up to *me*, thank you.


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TOPIC: Gals Best or Boys
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/310ceed185df7378?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 6:25 am
From: Laila


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TOPIC: The world's largest book
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/d85f9c82d2e93ca4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 7:14 am
From: rab


Photo: http://tr.im/BigBookPhoto

It's also available at Amazon for "only" $30,000:
http://tr.im/LargestBook

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:39 am
From: "Don Phillipson"


"rab" <remailer@reece.net.au> wrote in message
news:59L0O9IZ40132.9683217593@reece.net.au...

> Photo: http://tr.im/BigBookPhoto
>
> It's also available at Amazon for "only" $30,000:
> http://tr.im/LargestBook

Yes but this is a special fund-raiser for a charity.
The biggest "regular" book may be the album of
Helmut Newton's photography (high-art pinups.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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TOPIC: Excuse me!! Would you stop for a moment?!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.books/t/1883643d6eb19417?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:59 am
From: teacher


Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!
You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet,
had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
We advise you visiting :
http://www.islam-guide.com
http://www.thetruereligion.org
http://www.it-is-truth.org
http://www.beconvinced.com
http://www.plaintruth.org
http://english.islamway.com
http://www.todayislam.com
http://www.prophetmuhammed.org
http://www.islamtoday.net/english/
http://www.islamunveiled.org
http://www.islamic-knowledge.com

We willingly recive any inquries at the e-mail :


musl...@hotmail.com


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 15 2009 9:29 am
From: Stratum101


On Nov 15, 10:59 am, teacher <osta...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!


See _The Origins of Order_ by Stuart Kauffman, 1993

> Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
> Read ... and think deepl

Oh, shut up.

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